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Title: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: ka4koe on December 11, 2013, 02:59:51 PM
I'm officially giving up on the vertical antenna scheme. I like being heard most of the time, not occasionally. I'll worry about the lightning issue come spring. Fortunately, I already have lots of good wire on hand.

Time to build another inverted L.

PAN


Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: AF5J on December 11, 2013, 03:18:36 PM
I been using this strange setup for a while on the 40-10. Strange Being so close to the ground it actually works ok. Using the 1,000 acre bob wire radial system.
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Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: K1JJ on December 11, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
Phil,

I haven't been following your posts about the vertical trials and tribulations, but yours are typical results.  I feel your pain... ;)

For "local" east coast work on 75M and 40M, it is hard to beat a dipole at 1/4 wave high. (even a shorty dipole)    

If you do go with the inverted L, be sure it is way in the clear, away from buildings, towers, power lines, etc.   (To reduce both pattern distortion/absorption and RFI)     A horizontal dipole is more immune to these objects due to its higher take-off angle and horizontal polarization.  It is less Earth ground dependent too. The higher takeoff angle is also better suited to closer in AMer population concentration on the east coast.

T


Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: ka4koe on December 12, 2013, 08:44:07 AM
I can only take so much frustration and then I get pi**y. Just ask K4SMN.


Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: WQ9E on December 12, 2013, 08:52:19 AM
I have been using an 80 meter horizontal loop for years, seems to work well and is pretty carefree.  Also easily used on higher bands with a tuner.  My 18HT mostly gets used for contests.


Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: ka4koe on December 16, 2013, 08:12:31 AM
New "L" is up. Now just have to work on the feedpoint widgets...then we can light 'er up!


Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: KB2WIG on December 16, 2013, 02:34:54 PM
P,

 Ahh, do you really want to say " light 'er up!"??


klc


Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: ka4koe on December 16, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Sure, why not? Life is more exciting.


Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: KZ5A on December 16, 2013, 05:28:33 PM
I almost hate to bring this up, but an inverted-L is essentially a top loaded vertical. ;D

73 KZ5A Jack


Title: Re: Giving Up on Vertical
Post by: ka4koe on December 16, 2013, 11:19:14 PM
Yep, 150' long. I've always had good luck with these. Just got it on the air with only time to lay out two (2) radials...playing very well.

It's really hard to get a 36' foot vertical to play well without lots of extra widgets.

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