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Title: On Generator Power
Post by: WU2D on October 31, 2011, 10:56:02 AM
Day 2 after the big storm - huge oak came over just missing pool. We got off easy only a foot of snow. Two of three antennas down hard but managed to get the invertted L back up at about 25 feet and have the TCS emergency AM station operational.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: DMOD on October 31, 2011, 11:47:38 AM
Wow.

Hope you guys up there in the NE are OK  and will be to get back on the air.

Phil - AC0OB


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: WU2D on October 31, 2011, 12:05:36 PM
I had the TCS station as my emergency AM rig with 12 Watts of carbon mic modulated bliss. Power just came back on at NOON! The power transfer system worked flawlessly, the generator -not so much. Carb issues.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: flintstone mop on October 31, 2011, 12:23:24 PM
Worst possible combination of wet snow and trees with leaves and wind....
Might be many dayz no juice

fred


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: Jim, W5JO on October 31, 2011, 04:26:59 PM
If your gen set is gas operated, keep double the recommended dose of Stabil or equalivent in the fuel.  That should preserve the gas for about a year or more.  There is also a new additive by Stabil for ethanol.  I haven't read the label for it, but bet it helps with the alcohol and preserves the fuel.  With diesel there is also and additive for long term storage.  LP or natural gas...donno.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: W1RKW on November 01, 2011, 04:32:47 PM
also use a higher octane fuel.  I found that my muffler does not glow at night when using 89 vice 87.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: WA1GFZ on November 02, 2011, 10:43:48 AM
Keep your car filled and also keep a length of 1/4 inch clear hose and draw it out of the car. This way you always have fresh gas. Clear hose is great when you are bogarting the hose...you see the gas coming in time to not get a mouth full.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: The Slab Bacon on November 02, 2011, 11:04:30 AM
Keep your car filled and also keep a length of 1/4 inch clear hose and draw it out of the car. This way you always have fresh gas. Clear hose is great when you are bogarting the hose...you see the gas coming in time to not get a mouth full.

Most of the newer vehicles are a real PITA to syphon. Most of them, you cant get the hose deep enough into the tank to hit gas. I used to do it that way, but now I keep a couple of jugs around. The newer fuels just taste too bad...............


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: WA1GFZ on November 02, 2011, 11:18:08 AM
Frank the smaller tygon tubing works fine but sometimes you need to rotate it to get into the tank.
Yes, the new stuff is nasty so clear tubing is a must.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: KB2WIG on November 02, 2011, 12:12:42 PM
If you fill up the tube first, its a lot easier to syphone.....  Or try the  thumb-on-the-end-o-the-tube.  Stick her in, then place yer thumb on the tube, pull her out a bit, release into yer jug. If yer luckey, it'll start to flow like the Saint Laurence. If it stops, do it untill you have enough olean in the jug to fully prime the tube.  Its a bit envolved, but unless its 99% ETHL & H2O, I don't want to drink it.

razor blade on the license plate,

klc


 


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: The Slab Bacon on November 02, 2011, 12:21:18 PM
razor blade on the license plate,
klc


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Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: Sam KS2AM on November 03, 2011, 10:10:00 AM
Why siphoning gas may be difficult on newer vehicles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k39E2PRofIo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k39E2PRofIo)


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: W2VW on November 03, 2011, 12:30:22 PM

Most of the newer vehicles are a real PITA to syphon. Most of them, you cant get the hose deep enough into the tank to hit gas. I used to do it that way, but now I keep a couple of jugs around. The newer fuels just taste too bad...............

Newer fuel is an acquired taste.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: WA1GFZ on November 03, 2011, 02:57:48 PM
I went to clear tubing due to the after taste. 1 drop and I spit for an hour trying to kill the trench mouth.
I use a 10 foot length so I never get any liquid


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: Bill, KD0HG on November 03, 2011, 04:23:58 PM

Most of the newer vehicles are a real PITA to syphon. Most of them, you cant get the hose deep enough into the tank to hit gas. I used to do it that way, but now I keep a couple of jugs around. The newer fuels just taste too bad...............

Yes, but the newer fuels are loaded with Ethanol. E-85 is particularly good once you get over the gasoline taste...


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: W1RKW on November 03, 2011, 04:24:28 PM
why not be a pansy like me and use a bellows?


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: The Slab Bacon on November 04, 2011, 09:06:34 AM
Yes, but the newer fuels are loaded with Ethanol. E-85 is particularly good once you get over the gasoline taste...

Hmmmm................. Age it for a few years in a charred oak barrel and you will be good to go............ Jack Daniels, eat your heart out! ! !  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: WA1GFZ on November 04, 2011, 03:43:42 PM
bellows suck Bob. BTW I bet we cross paths in the morning. Been living at GFZ south and driving north to work.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: W1RKW on November 04, 2011, 03:59:22 PM
Yep, bellows suck gas.

You got a heck of a commute!  I'm on the road at 430A and at work by 500A.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: KM1H on November 04, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
Quote
Wow.

Hope you guys up there in the NE are OK  and will be to get back on the air.

Phil - AC0OB

Just a typical stormy day for us, Summer, Winter or inbetween...the power goes out for 2-10 days  ::)  Just too damn many big trees right next to the power lines and its death to any politician that mandates a tree free fall zone.

Power was out here in Pelham NH for 71 hours, from 6PM Saturday to 5PM Tuesday, about 12-13" of snow on the hilltop and about 4-5" down below in town but its surrounded by hills. The "town" as we call it is about 150' ASL and Im at 675' Other hills are in the 300-450' range .
Temps were mild, the genny did its thing (bought it in 85 just before Gloria hit) and was shut off when not needed so we werent bothered when sleeping. No food lost and a couple of books read. Only damage on this property was an 8' rhododendron had one side split but didnt seperate, Im going to try taping it up and clamp. Havent been back in the woods yet but all the Beverages seem to be working.

There are still towns in the area that arent 100% yet but serious property damage appears almost nil.

Carl


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: KL7OF on November 04, 2011, 09:43:43 PM
Keep your car filled and also keep a length of 1/4 inch clear hose and draw it out of the car. This way you always have fresh gas. Clear hose is great when you are bogarting the hose...you see the gas coming in time to not get a mouth full.
Get the Alaska model with the clear  hose and the check ball in the end  if you can get it down the fill tube ,,,, it's shake and bake...no sucking


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: WA1LGQ on November 04, 2011, 10:22:18 PM
Still on generator power here. Lost it Saturday at about 5 pm. Lots of tree branches down which took down my dipole and folded over my VHF/UHF discone mast. The 10M ant is still up, but the tree that it is hanging from dumped a large branch that almost missed the above ground pool. I took down the 6M antenna for the hurricane in August and its a good thing that I did not put it back up yet. That would now be scrap metal. Anybody know why my Mcullock chain saw won't start? Its got good spark, recent spark plug, proper gap, but it leaks fuel from the exhaust. WTF? I guess the mix is rich!  ......Larry


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: KM1H on November 05, 2011, 11:30:36 AM
The float sprung a leak or the rotgut gas ate a gasket.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: W1AEX on November 08, 2011, 11:47:05 PM
This was a nasty storm. Amazingly, with thousands of pounds of wood crashing down, there was no damage to the house, but I lost all my wire antennas. A tree also brushed the tower and cleaned out the 6 meter and 2 meter beams. We lost power for 5 days and just got cable/phone/internet back today, 11 days later.

My wife and I have grown fond of the sound of our chainsaw and we now know all the guys at the landfill by first name from hauling brush there for the past 10 days. The front and backyard are all cleaned up, but I still have a lot of work to do on the west side. I did manage to get a 130 foot open wire fed antenna up this morning to use for 75 - 40 meters. With the destruction of several large leafy trees, I now have a lot more "open sky" now and was able to get it up about 20 feet higher than the 250 foot center-fed. Ah well, someone said change is good...

It's nice to have power/cable/internet/phone and other such nice things again!

Rob W1AEX


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: WA3VJB on November 09, 2011, 04:15:08 AM
Rob I'm glad you're getting the place sorted out. 

My brother lost a bunch of trees to Irene when the storm came through, and it was costing about $1000/tree to clear out. He said the same thing about the sky looking very different now with all the open space, but his reaction to it wasn't good.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: Ralph W3GL on November 09, 2011, 03:02:18 PM


Wow, a kilobuck a tree... I really got a break, only $200 per tree here :o :o :o


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: WD8BIL on November 09, 2011, 03:21:47 PM
The Lorain tornado of '86 ripped down 5 big oaks along my back boundry. When I got home from work that day I felt like I was driving up the wrong driveway the skyline had changed so much.


Title: Re: On Generator Power
Post by: KM1H on November 09, 2011, 03:37:37 PM
After the 2008 ice storm an out of state tree outfit was in the area doing final trimming days after power was back.

I caught them just coming up the street and asked how much to trim my damage since it was across the street from the power lines. A $100 took care of a 300' frontage with considerable damage. Watching the guy in the bucket with a hydraulically operated telescoping chain saw was a blast. A couple of other workers even cleaned up what was on the lawn initially and fed it into the big chipper they were towing.

I guess the outfits in CT figure all the yuppies can pay the big bucks ;D
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