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Title: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on May 15, 2011, 01:38:17 PM
Hello AM Lovers,
We did already some tests on 40 mtrs in AM.
F6AQK, PE1BIW, PA3HCO and 9H1ES have been on 7190 khz.
Just after 06.00 hour by us....
But around 7180 a very big signal, max. S8.
It souding like RTTY.... no reception possible!
And on 7190 I heard a broadcast station, but very weak....

I were wondering about the big signals.
F6AQK, S9 +30
9H1ES, S8
PA3HCO and PE1BIW, S1

Today, Sunday 15 th, again AM on 7190.
I (PE1MPH) had a qso with 9H1ES.
But he could not heard me good...
Maybe my power were to low, 20 Watts.
I heard Fortunato good, max. S8.

Pity again the freq. were not clean....
Perhaps, we go a little up.
Around 7193 khz or we must lower then 7160 khz.

We try and listen again to find a clear freq. on 40 mtrs. ;D

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Steve - K4HX on May 17, 2011, 02:09:12 PM
Will you be one 7193 this weekend (Saturday or Sunday mornings)? I will listen for you and call if I hear anything.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on May 18, 2011, 08:57:20 AM
Will you be one 7193 this weekend (Saturday or Sunday mornings)? I will listen for you and call if I hear anything.

Oke!
We can try, if you hear us... ;D

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: k4kyv on May 18, 2011, 12:35:00 PM
A lot of us will be at Dayton this weekend, but keep on trying. 7193 might work better than 7160, since that frequency is wiped out less often by the Ethiopian jamming stations.  We do get interference from the LSB of Sudanese broadcaster on 7200.0 kc/s. Also, maybe less SSB QRM at the high end of the 7.0-7.2 segment.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on May 18, 2011, 03:54:47 PM
A lot of us will be at Dayton this weekend, but keep on trying. 7193 might work better than 7160, since that frequency is wiped out less often by the Ethiopian jamming stations.  We do get interference from the LSB of Sudanese broadcaster on 7200.0 kc/s. Also, maybe less SSB QRM at the high end of the 7.0-7.2 segment.

Thanks Don....
We hope there is next weekend no contest.
If all goes oke, there are AM Lovers around 7193 on air!
Just after 6 o'clock by us.... ;D

Often Don, I hear around 7160/7165 a broadcaster...

Greetings,

Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on May 18, 2011, 09:14:15 PM
Will have to be before 0700 Zulu

http://hhhnet.net/ (http://hhhnet.net/)  

Every early morning, there they are, the WAS and DX ssb net on 7.190 Mhz. At 2 or 3 am my time. This will make it VERY difficult to run AM DX here.  However, there is usually a lot of unused space down between 7.125 and 7.140 Mhz. 


John KX5JT



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: k4kyv on May 18, 2011, 10:05:56 PM
That's why someone should petition the FCC to expand the phone band at least down to 7100.  It seems that somebody has a  claim on practically every spot of that measly 75 kc/s of phone spectrum we have in common with Regions 1 and 3, while 7100-7125 usually lies fallow throughout the hours of darkness in N. America.

But any petition needs to be well thought out with plenty of documentation for any justifications presented to the Commission. The CW crowd is vehemently opposed to any further incursion of phone privileges into the existing "reserved" spectrum, regardless of the fact that they lightly use it.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on May 18, 2011, 11:13:47 PM
Don, I had a feeling you would chime in about the space below 7.125 Mhz as you have stated this case a few times in the past and it is a solid one in my estimation.  I would get behind the cause and add my signature to any petition if that's how it works.  I'm not much of a writer of legalese material however.  

Who amoung us will champion this effort?


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Sam KS2AM on May 19, 2011, 06:09:42 AM
Don, I had a feeling you would chime in about the space below 7.125 Mhz as you have stated this case a few times in the past and it is a solid one in my estimation.  I would get behind the cause and add my signature to any petition if that's how it works.  I'm not much of a writer of legalese material however.  

Who amoung us will champion this effort?

I nominate the only guy who has brought this up many, many, uhh, many times in this forum and on qrz.com ... K4KYV!

Anyone want to second the motion ?   :)


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on May 19, 2011, 01:27:22 PM
Will have to be before 0700 Zulu
http://hhhnet.net/ (http://hhhnet.net/)  
Every early morning, there they are, the WAS and DX ssb net on 7.190 Mhz. At 2 or 3 am my time. This will make it VERY difficult to run AM DX here.  However, there is usually a lot of unused space down between 7.125 and 7.140 Mhz. 
John KX5JT

John,

On 7190 khz I heard often a broadcast station?!
Not strong, but readable...
We can 'monitoring' early mornings (by us!) between 7125 - 7140 khz.
Maybe there is a clean freq. for AM!

Greetings,

Henk, Pe1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Ralph W3GL on May 20, 2011, 11:35:20 PM

I'm listening on 7140.000 right now and will be monitoring for the next hour...

Anyone interested give me a call, AM or Silly Sideband; will respond if I hear you...

I have a CW beacon on line that sends "QRA W3GL" periodically.



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on May 20, 2011, 11:53:32 PM

I'm listening on 7140.000 right now and will be monitoring for the next hour...

Anyone interested give me a call, AM or Silly Sideband; will respond if I hear you...

I have a CW beacon on line that sends "QRA W3GL" periodically.


Hello!
Now, 05.50 by me, strong ssb around 7138!
We try about a few minutes around 7193.
On 7193 just F6AQK and me, on 7190 I hear 9H1ES calling.
Now F6AQK and PE1BIW trying 7170, but evenso weak signals...
But both weak signals.... >:(

Greetings,


PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on May 21, 2011, 01:39:59 AM
Hello AM Lovers,

This morning bad conditions on 40 mtrs!
Here the resuls.

7193 F6AQK, Jean, max. S7, but free on freq.

7190 9H1ES, Fortunato, max. S5, qrm from ssb station
7190 ???? another AM station, maybe talking with Fortunato

7170 F6AQK, Jean, max. S8, again free on freq.
7170 PE1BIW, Martin, only a few words I could hear.

On 7190 and 7175 many ssb stations, evenso from the usa.
And the same around 7140 khz.

I think conditions were this morning very bad! :(
Hopefull a next time better....


Greetings,

Henk
PE1MPH
Dokkum, The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on May 21, 2011, 11:49:26 PM
Hello,
Now, 05.45 hour by me, I hear"

+/- 7186 very strong digitale mode station, S9+
7175 strong broadcast station, Arabic?, S9+10

On 7193: I hear F6AQK calling, but weak signal, S5.

But on: Receivers on the Web RX320 - New York
+/- 06/20 hour by me.
I heard Jean F6AQK talking, pity ssb near freq. there...


Greetings,

Henk / pe1mph


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on May 28, 2011, 09:21:53 PM
 I been testing on 7.290 at 1 am been clear but hear no one here


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on May 28, 2011, 09:36:16 PM
I been testing on 7.290 at 1 am been clear but hear no one here

I can try to be on 7.290 in the mornings that I am not working.  What time zone 1am?  I'm in central time.  I'll be off Monday night (Tuesday morning).

BTW,  This thread is technically about N.A. to Europe and I don't believe Europeans can use above 7.200 Mhz on 40.

John KX5JT


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on May 28, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
i'm in eastarn time zone i'm in pa


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on May 28, 2011, 10:45:54 PM
Tues morning 1am Eastern .... Midnight Monday night for me...I be on 7.290 am if all works out.  I know LA to PA is very doable on 40 at that time.  Others should feel free to join in too!


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on May 29, 2011, 12:04:06 AM
Tues morning 1am Eastern .... Midnight Monday night for me...I be on 7.290 am if all works out.  I know LA to PA is very doable on 40 at that time.  Others should feel free to join in too!

Oke, but 7290 is not a clear freq. in Holland.
Now on 7190: 9H1ES, F6AQK and PE1BIW.
But conditions poor....?

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on May 31, 2011, 03:40:17 AM
hello  John 5/31/11 that was me on 7.290 you was doing well here 20 over at times then down to 5 but in the clear sorry bout your noise but i copyed you 100% kx5jt from kb3rdt lol!


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on May 31, 2011, 04:30:21 AM
hello  John 5/31/11 that was me on 7.290 you was doing well here 20 over at times then down to 5 but in the clear sorry bout your noise but i copyed you 100% kx5jt from kb3rdt lol!

Darn okay.  My noise is bouncing from 7 to 9 here.  I'll have to give it another try this weekend when I'm off work again.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on June 02, 2011, 03:35:20 AM
sounds good long as static crashes not there i'm game


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 16, 2011, 03:54:03 PM
I am new to this forum. However, I have been operating AM for many years. Use
max. power allowed in US, 375 watts carrier. I am located in Houston, Tx.
Working into Europe on 40M is simple from here. I use a 3 element vertical
parasitic array firing NE.
Traditionally, before the recent 40M band changes everyone SSB and AM
operated split frequency.  We held regular schedules between US and So. Africa.
on 40M operating split. Seems to me that US operators could operate around 7290
and EU stations operate below 7100. Maybe I am out of date but that should work.
What do you all think.
73,
John, AA5T


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Steve - K4HX on June 16, 2011, 04:33:23 PM
Sure, split would work and could be employed, if needed. We've already made some EU-to-USA contact on simplex AM in the past two years. Since the broadcast stations have mostly vacated below 7200, the only issue is finding a clear frequency among the USA SSB stations.

You are correct, the propagation is there for contacts to EU. With your antenna system, you should do very well. If the T-storms are not bad this weekend, I will get on 40 and call CQ. I'll post the freq(s) here.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 16, 2011, 06:31:46 PM
OK Steve,
I saw your inverted delta loops on QRZ. Very nice I used that antenna for years
working So. Africa. Fed in an upper corner and 180Deg out of phase.
Then I lived in Dallas. They don't work down here. Ground conductivity is much
greater here. This is vertical country, took years to learn that.
Working simplex on 40 M is tough. SSB all over 7.125 to 7.200. Just like 14.286,
14.285 is the Greek net and 14.287 is the Veteran's net. On 40m we have the
stations south of the border, they run 5KW and happily though they stick pretty
much to 7.125 to 7.130.
I can't change frequency to easily. I usually use a Globe King 500A, crystal control.
For 40M I have 7.285, 7.290, 7.295. Don't mind ordering some more if the EU folks
want to establish some sort of regular contact.
I am retired, which means that I am working more now. To me Friday evenings are best. Sunset here is at 8:25 PM CDT this time of year. Band opens to EU and NE about about that time. During the winter I can hear EU around 4PM CT.
73,
John
 
 
 


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Steve - K4HX on June 16, 2011, 07:51:20 PM
I'd like to hear that vertical array. If you are around in the evenings the weekend, listen for me around 7290, plus or minus the broadcast crap.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 16, 2011, 10:51:06 PM
Hi Steve,
At the moment my Globe King is tuned up for 3880/3885. I will retune it for 7290.
When that is done tomorrow, I will post it up on this BB. Sunset here is 8:25PM CDT.
For a contact tomorrow evening on 7290 I suggest 8PM CDT. Since you are in VA.
you must be on eastern time i.e. 9PM EDT. Should not be any problem with a contact. At this QTH, there is usually a weak BC station on 7285 and another on 7295. Normally
7290 is clear.
I will confirm this schedule with a post tomorrow. Let me know if you concur.
73,
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Steve - K4HX on June 17, 2011, 02:17:54 PM
Works for me!


Hi Steve,
At the moment my Globe King is tuned up for 3880/3885. I will retune it for 7290.
When that is done tomorrow, I will post it up on this BB. Sunset here is 8:25PM CDT.
For a contact tomorrow evening on 7290 I suggest 8PM CDT. Since you are in VA.
you must be on eastern time i.e. 9PM EDT. Should not be any problem with a contact. At this QTH, there is usually a weak BC station on 7285 and another on 7295. Normally
7290 is clear.
I will confirm this schedule with a post tomorrow. Let me know if you concur.
73,
John



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 17, 2011, 03:07:36 PM
OK, Steve,
The Globe King is ready to go. 8PM CDT, tonight, 7290.
While retuning today I heard a Net of some kind on 7290.
Amazing how they congregate around what are usually AM frequencies.
Anyway if there is some SSB on 7290, I will flip to 7.285 or 7.295.
73,
John
 


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 17, 2011, 09:29:37 PM
Steve,
I transmitted on 7290 from 7:55PM CDT to 8:20PM CDT. Nothing heard.
A BC station on 7.286 that was about it. We can try another day. I sent an
Email to PE1MPH asking him if was interested in working split on 40M. No
reply at this time.
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Steve - K4HX on June 18, 2011, 01:18:59 PM
T-storms here last night. I will be around again tonight.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 18, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
Hi Steve,
Not possible this weekend.
73,
John
P.S. I will let you know if I obtain a reply from PE1MPH.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 23, 2011, 04:23:32 PM
K4HX
Hi Steve,
I am clear for this Friday. 7290 at 8PM CDT.
Nothing heard from PE1MPH. I will send some Emails to his buddies.
Should be possible to scratch up some AMers to operate split on 40M.
73,
John, AA5T


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: k4kyv on June 23, 2011, 07:20:50 PM
K4HX
Hi Steve,
I am clear for this Friday. 7290 at 8PM CDT.
Nothing heard from PE1MPH. I will send some Emails to his buddies.
Should be possible to scratch up some AMers to operate split on 40M.
73,
John, AA5T


What's the point of that split nonsense, when US amateurs can now, finally after many years, operate phone on some of the same frequencies as the Europeans?  We have 7125-7200 as common frequencies, and even Generals can work Europeans directly on 7175-7200.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: W2VW on June 23, 2011, 09:54:01 PM
My old ricebox is not happy if the membrane pushbuttons aren't exercised. This includes the VFO-2 button ;D

This stuff is slightly older than the Johnson 500 I used in the 80s.


K4HX
Hi Steve,
I am clear for this Friday. 7290 at 8PM CDT.
Nothing heard from PE1MPH. I will send some Emails to his buddies.
Should be possible to scratch up some AMers to operate split on 40M.
73,
John, AA5T


What's the point of that split nonsense, when US amateurs can now, finally after many years, operate phone on some of the same frequencies as the Europeans?  We have 7125-7200 as common frequencies, and even Generals can work Europeans directly on 7175-7200.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 23, 2011, 10:43:12 PM
K4KYV
Don, QSL your comments. After years of fighting to keep 14.286 open I think it
is simpler to to operate split on 40M. Transmitting around 7.290 and receiving
below 7.125 avoids SSB problems and BC problems. I like to operate DX SSB on 40M
and aggravating SSB operators by operating AM in 40M window is to no advantage.
73,
John, AA5T


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on June 24, 2011, 03:10:05 AM
What "window"?


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Steve - K4HX on June 25, 2011, 11:21:22 AM
Works sked interfering. I will listen and call CQ on 7290 +/- and 7220 tonight, unless there are local T-storms.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on June 25, 2011, 11:46:51 AM
7220 seems to becoming popular at night for AM... Going to have to note that next to the transmitter....



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on June 25, 2011, 01:23:38 PM
Remember Field Day this weekend. Shouldn't be a quiet night on 40.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on June 25, 2011, 03:56:00 PM
Hi All,
Jean, F6AQK is planning to transmit AM on 7.185 this evening. I will not be able to make that sked. Perhaps someone would want to make contact with him. He will be on
5:00Z. His Email is kugler.jaen@neuf.fr
73,
John, AA5T

 


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Steve - K4HX on June 26, 2011, 09:33:55 AM
Field Day everywhere. No spots for AM.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on June 27, 2011, 04:42:23 PM
Field Day everywhere. No spots for AM.

Yes a pity!!!
But on 7290 khz we cann't hear am from USA.
Mostly strong legale stations blowing all away in Europa.
And ther are some broadcaststations between 7060 - 7200.
I thought you in USA were using +/- 7160 khz for AM? ;D

Often in the morning I hear ssb from the USA between 7060 - 7200.
I tried many times to receive AM from your side...
We tried mostly around 7190 in AM.
When NO ssb stations are on air...
I am sure we can make once a qso with the USA!
The first point is.... we must find a good freq!

Greetings,

Henk pe1mph


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on June 28, 2011, 08:57:24 AM
Hello AM Lovers on 40!

This morning I listen between 06.00 - 06.30 hour by me.
(04.00 - 04.30 London GMT Time)

I heard ONLY ssb stations from the USA.
All between +/- 7060 - 7190 khz.
Some K-, and W-stations I heard.... but no AM station.

Evenso the signals from the broadcasters were fair to good.
On +/- 7160, 7175 and 7185 Br.Casters...

But on 7200 and higher, impossible for me to hear AM.
Freq. in use by broadcast stations and big signals...
But maybe some freq. are free, I shall listen which...
If you can give me between 7060 - 7200 an AM freq....
Which you mostly use for AM, that can be handy for us.... ;D

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Email: henkanneke22@hotmail.com


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on June 29, 2011, 03:52:12 PM
Works sked interfering. I will listen and call CQ on 7290 +/- and 7220 tonight, unless there are local T-storms.

Steve and other AM Lovers,
This morning (29 th juni) I heard AM on 7220 khz!!! :)
Time by me +/- 06.45 hour, thats +/- 04.45 Londen GMT time.
I am 100% sure I heard a USA station calling cq, cq...
That freq. were free by me (no broadcaststation!), we may not use that freq.....
But I listen in ssb to hear the man speaking.
When I listen in AM to weak to understand.
Next days I monitor again on +/- 7220 khz.

Greetings: Henk/PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Ralph W3GL on June 29, 2011, 05:45:56 PM

  At about 1:00 AM (+/-) local time this morning (last night here) I called
  CQ (seeking you on AM) on 7.220 mcs... No answer after several calls.

  By the way, I also am somewhat proficient with the CW mode and would
  change to it if called that way.



 


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on June 30, 2011, 11:19:22 AM

  At about 1:00 AM (+/-) local time this morning (last night here) I called
  CQ (seeking you on AM) on 7.220 mcs... No answer after several calls.

  By the way, I also am somewhat proficient with the CW mode and would
  change to it if called that way.

Maybe I heard you calling....
I listen next mornings (by me) around 7220 khz.
This morning I heard nothing on +/- 7220 khz.
When I hear a station, I write on this Forum!
Evenso I listen around 7160 & 7190 for AM.

Good dx,

PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 01, 2011, 10:49:19 AM
AM on 40 news:

This morning, after 06.00 hour by me, on 7185 khz:
F6AQK, Jean, max. S9, good audio
9H1ES, Fortunato, max. S2, some splattering from ssb

No other AM station heard and on 7290 a broadcaststation blowing all away.
On 7220 I heard some ssb stations.....

Next days I monitor again on 40 mtrs,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 04, 2011, 02:34:12 PM
Hello,

Sometimes I think: 'I am crazy....'.
Last Sundaymorning I going early out our bed. ;D
I heard weak signals on 3885.....
But therefore I went not early my bed!
No I want to monitor on 40 mtrs...
Time by me 04.30 - 05.30 that morning!
(02.30 - 03.30 Londen GMT time!)

Not many (ssb) stations on air.....
But on 7175 a very strong broadcaster.
I could not understand it, sounding like Asian?
And on 7165 a station, audio souding like RTTY.
On 7190 a weak broadcaster from???
And on 7220 a very strong Chinese? broadcaster.
Which had a big signal S9 +25 by me.
Not possible to receive AM on +/- 7290.
Big broadcast signals around that freq...

Around 05.30 I go to our bed again..... ;D

But AM Lovers...
This morning after 06.15 by me....
The freq. 7220 were totaly clean/free!!
The Chinese were off air????

Sorry USA AM Lovers.... till now.....
I can NOT give you a clear/free AM freq. to use....
So we in Europe can hear you in AM on 40 mtrs.
I can only tell you: 7290 khz is NOT free in Europa!

Greetings,

Henk / pe1mph
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on July 07, 2011, 01:51:03 AM
7.200 free here tonight at my time pa usa hear no one! July 7 anyone around to try morning AM mode!


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on July 07, 2011, 03:02:04 AM
Are you still up?


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 07, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
7.200 free here tonight at my time pa usa hear no one! July 7 anyone around to try morning AM mode!

Sorry...
I monitored 7200 this morning, but not free!
On that freq. I hear broadcasters...
But around 7220 is between 06.00 - 07.00 by me free.
And evenso 7195 is during that time free.

I keep my eyes aerly morning on both freq.

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 08, 2011, 11:18:23 PM
Hi, Did a little research on 40M AM this evening. At 10PM CDT, Houston, The
following frquencies had BC stations active. 7.200, 7.210, 7.220, 7.230.
The band is wide open to EU. G and OK stations 9+10.
For 40M AMers to make some 2way AM contacts will take a little planning.
PE1MPH, your band activity comments are helpful.
I don't know how much AM power you can run in Holland?
Here our limit is 375 watts carrier.
I will do some more monitoring as time permits.
73,
John, AA5T

 


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: k4kyv on July 08, 2011, 11:33:33 PM
Something that would really help would be if the FCC expanded the 40m phone band down at least to 7100.  Very often, the entire phone band below 7200 is fully congested with few, if any, open  frequencies, while frequencies below 7125 down to about 7060 are very lightly occupied if there is any activity at all.  The CW and digital activity seems to congregate mostly below 7060 even when there is a major CW or RTTY QuaRMtest on.

Since ARRL doesn't seem to be motivated to take any action, maybe it's time for someone else to take the initiative and submit a Petition for Rulemaking.  I have seriously considered doing it myself, but this is something that needs to be very well thought out and carefully worded, and I just haven't taken the time.  There are many die-hard CW operators who are dead set against "losing" any more CW frequencies to phone, even though they rarely if ever use 7060-7125 kc/s. Of course, the CW ops wouldn't be losing a thing, since CW would still be fully legal all the way across the band from 7.0 to 7.3, and most of the RTTY and "data" stuff seems to be congregating around 7040 these days.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 09, 2011, 12:02:30 AM
Don you are correct. In 50 years the ARRL has done nothing about 40M. That will
not change, especially in regard to AM.
As I have mentioned we may have to go back to split operation, we above 7.200 and
EU below 7.125.
Would be nice if it was not so.
73,
John, AA5T


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Sam KS2AM on July 09, 2011, 12:03:55 AM
Hi, Did a little research on 40M AM this evening. At 10PM CDT, Houston, The
following frquencies had BC stations active. 7.200, 7.210, 7.220, 7.230.

There is AM broadcast activity in Europe between 7200-7300 virtually 24 hours a day.  Sometimes you can't hear a broadcast station here in North America that others in N.A can hear. Recently someone here posted that they were calling CQ on a particular 40 meter frequency and when I tuned to that frequency I heard nothing but a broadcast station out of Europe with a weaker BC station under it.   So what sounds like a clear frequency to one person may not be clear to others.



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on July 09, 2011, 12:07:26 AM
There is some digital/rtty operation around 7.070 through 7.090.  I run Hellschrieber around 7.073 with moderate success.  I often hear some Italian and Spanish phone (sideband) there though.

No need to work split anymore on 40 since we and Europe now have priveledges between 7.125 and 7.200.

I whole-heartedly agree that the U.S. should expand the phone priveledges down to at least 7.100, that would be handy. 

John KX5jT


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 09, 2011, 12:30:28 AM
Hi, Sam I have fought the 40M wars from the EU side as an SM7. Right now
there is a carrier on 7.170. That is the only one from here. If not running split
then perhaps use AMFONE.Net to spot open frequencies. I need to know what
power the EU guys can run. Perhaps one of the EU AMers can tell us. PE1MPH?
73.
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on July 09, 2011, 12:36:12 AM
No need to work split anymore on 40 since we and Europe now have priveledges between 7.125 and 7.200.

I whole-heartedly agree that the U.S. should expand the phone priveledges down to at least 7.100, that would be handy.  

John KX5jT

If you can't make the contact within the current mentioned above 75 KHz segment, why would adding 25 KHz more (and for whom - Extra?, Advanced?) make it "handy". We had great opportunity to have a regular AM presence around 7160 KHz when the 40 meter band changes were initiated several years ago, but that has died off. Now, for the most part, N. A. AM'ers are just diddling 7200 and 7300 KHz where all the SW broadcasters reside for many hours a day.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 09, 2011, 12:40:56 AM
Hi, Well no AMers between 7125 and 7.200. The band is open to EU. If they had
transmitted then I should have heard them. Maybe they are not running any power,
I don't know.
73,
Good Night


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on July 09, 2011, 12:45:47 AM
I need to know what power the EU guys can run. Perhaps one of the EU AMers can tell us. PE1MPH?
73.
John


That might be a country specified rule. One would probably have to check the amateur radio rules for a particular country.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on July 09, 2011, 01:01:11 AM
No need to work split anymore on 40 since we and Europe now have priveledges between 7.125 and 7.200.

I whole-heartedly agree that the U.S. should expand the phone priveledges down to at least 7.100, that would be handy.  

John KX5jT

If you can't make the contact within the current mentioned above 75 KHz segment, why would adding 25 KHz more (and for whom - Extra?, Advanced?) make it "handy". We had great opportunity to have a regular AM presence around 7160 KHz when the 40 meter band changes were initiated several years ago, but that has died off. Now, for the most part, N. A. AM'ers are just diddling 7200 and 7300 KHz where all the SW broadcasters reside for many hours a day.

I hear AM on 7.160 in the late morning/ early afternoons from
Texas/Louisiana/Arkansas/Oklahoma areas.  What I have found is
most DX on 40 phone is in and around 7.160 Mhz.  7.158 is a busy
frequency throughout the night.  7.163 also.  

So it would be HANDY to have a few dozen mhz lower.  Pete, surely
you can understand this?

I shall start cooridinating a few of us post-midnighters down around 7.135


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Sam KS2AM on July 09, 2011, 01:01:31 AM
Don you are correct. In 50 years the ARRL has done nothing about 40M.

The ARRL and IARU represented the interests of amateur radio in the WRC-2003 conference.  That conference led to (most) broadcasters vacating 7100-7200 kc.   Sometime after that, many European countries allowed the amateurs in their respective jurisdictions to use 7100-7200 - a privilege that they did not have before.  Thats why you can now hear nightly phone activity between North American and European stations between 7125-7200.
If I'm reading the results of WRC-2003 correctly, the ARRL/IARU and others also wanted the broadcasters to vacate 7200-7200 by the year 2015. No agreement was reached on that however.


As I have mentioned we may have to go back to split operation, we above 7.200 and
EU below 7.125. Would be nice if it was not so.

As per my other post, I don't see that as being practical since there is AM broadcast activity in Europe between 7200-7300 virtually 24 hours a day.  Even if a frequency seems clear in North America, there may be a broadcast station on that frequency audible in EU. Even finding a spot between broadcast stations in EU is challenging - most of the 7200-7300 range is "swamped" by AM BC stations running hundreds of kilowatts. Its unlikely that an EU amateur station is going to pick a 375 watt AM amateur carrier from North America out that mess.



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 09, 2011, 09:46:26 AM
As I have mentioned we may have to go back to split operation, we above 7.200 and
EU below 7.125. Would be nice if it was not so.

As per my other post, I don't see that as being practical since there is AM broadcast activity in Europe between 7200-7300 virtually 24 hours a day.  Even if a frequency seems clear in North America, there may be a broadcast station on that frequency audible in EU. Even finding a spot between broadcast stations in EU is challenging - most of the 7200-7300 range is "swamped" by AM BC stations running hundreds of kilowatts. Its unlikely that an EU amateur station is going to pick a 375 watt AM amateur carrier from North America out that mess.

Thats correct Sam!
When we in EU hear an AM station from the USA between 7200 -7300 then it is 'lucky'!
Sometimes, read again: sometimes!, around 7220 is free early mornings by us!
Till now I can not give you, USA AM Lovers, a 'good' AM freq. lower then 7200.
Sorry, but nearly every morning I monitoring that part of 40 mtrs.
And I do it with pleasure for all AM stations... ;D

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 09, 2011, 11:09:44 AM
Hi Henk,
If we are both monitoring then we cannot make contact. You state that early morning
7.200 is clear for you. It does not matter that I hear a BC station on there, you will
not be hearing it.
I propose that this coming Tueday 12 July, I transmit on 7.200. This would be
morning Wed. 13 July for you.
I will transmit at 10PM and 11PM Central Daylight Time. We have 7 hours difference.
You are GMT+2. That would be 5AM (0500) and 6AM (0600) your time.
If you hear me you would post it on AMFONE.NET.
This way we might get something started.
Please reply if you are interested.
73,
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: k4kyv on July 09, 2011, 12:02:51 PM
If you can't make the contact within the current mentioned above 75 KHz segment, why would adding 25 KHz more (and for whom - Extra?, Advanced?) make it "handy".

Please explain why there might any longer be any justifiable reason to restrict phone in the (continental) US from 7100-7125. Often, when 7125-7200 is totally congested with US and DX phone activity, little activity can be heard in 7100-7125, except for a few DX SSB signals, and occasionally a handful of US CW ops who like to operate around 7112, in some misguided effort to keep the old defunct novice segment alive, while there is plenty of vacant space to operate "slow speed cw" between 7060 and 7100.

The 40m situation changed radically when (most) broadcasters vacated 7100-7200 and amateurs in Europe and elsewhere regained access to that segment. Even though the US amateur band runs from 7.0 to 7.3, the sub-band restrictions in the lower 48 limit non-split US-European QSOs to a measly 75 kc/s out of the total of 300. A 33% expansion of the broadcast-free US phone allocation would reduce congestion in that segment.

Another thing that makes no sense now is that US hams in Alaska, Hawaii and US overseas territories  like Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guam, etc. are allowed special phone privileges on 7075-7100.  The reason for this is that originally, in Region 3 (Pacific Islands), ITU regulations prohibited amateur operation above 7100, and hams in Puerto Rico,  Virgin Islands, Alaska and Hawaii claimed that the shortwave broadcasting interference rendered those frequencies unusable, so in order  to have a place to operate phone, the FCC granted them  that special exemption.  Now, with most broadcasters gone, and amateurs once again allowed on 7100-7200 in both Regions 1 and 3, there is no longer any useful purpose for those special privileges outside the lower 48.

To avoid taking away anyone's existing privileges, i.e. the special phone segment on 7075-7100, I would propose moving that segment up to 7100-7125, and furthermore, to make it available to all US licensees regardless of where they are located on US soil.

This is a phone issue, not just an AM issue.  Both AM and SSB would benefit from this minimal expansion of phone privileges.  The Extra, Advanced and General class sub-sub band allocations would be a separate issue altogether.

The existing FCC mode restrictions in the US are based on the old international allocations when 7100 and above was elusively broadcasting outside the Amercias. That has changed now. It is way past time for the US amateur allocations to reflect this change.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on July 09, 2011, 03:56:23 PM
If you can't make the contact within the current mentioned above 75 KHz segment, why would adding 25 KHz more (and for whom - Extra?, Advanced?) make it "handy".

Please explain why there might any longer be any justifiable reason to restrict phone in the (continental) US from 7100-7125. Often, when 7125-7200 is totally congested with US and DX phone activity, little activity can be heard in 7100-7125, except for a few DX SSB signals, and occasionally a handful of US CW ops who like to operate around 7112, in some misguided effort to keep the old defunct novice segment alive, while there is plenty of vacant space to operate "slow speed cw" between 7060 and 7100.
...

To avoid taking away anyone's existing privileges, i.e. the special phone segment on 7075-7100, I would propose moving that segment up to 7100-7125, and furthermore, to make it available to all US licensees regardless of where they are located on US soil.

This is a phone issue, not just an AM issue.  Both AM and SSB would benefit from this minimal expansion of phone privileges.  The Extra, Advanced and General class sub-sub band allocations would be a separate issue altogether.

The existing FCC mode restrictions in the US are based on the old international allocations when 7100 and above was elusively broadcasting outside the Amercias. That has changed now. It is way past time for the US amateur allocations to reflect this change.

If I were the FCC, I would apply the resources for change where there was a perceived problem. Personally, I don't see a problem with the current 40 meter regulation. Unless, your feeling is "they have it" "we don't" BAH, BAH "we're treated like second class citizens", etc. etc.

Even if the change was made, I would suspect the same thing will happen as what happened with the 80 meter phone band expansion. When the change was made, many initially ran down to the new segment to rally around the amateur flag, hop for joy, wave the microphone high in the air and proceeded to make contacts including many AM'ers. Within several months, the exodus was reversed and many were back to their old stomping grounds further up the band. Change can be a bitch when you're stuck in a rut.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on July 09, 2011, 06:11:39 PM

Pete said:

"
Even if the change was made, I would suspect the same thing will happen as what happened with the 80 meter phone band expansion. When the change was made, many initially ran down to the new segment to rally around the amateur flag, hop for joy, wave the microphone high in the air and proceeded to make contacts including many AM'ers. Within several months, the exodus was reversed and many were back to their old stomping grounds further up the band. Change can be a bitch when you're stuck in a rut. "


This is ridiculous!  I hear plenty of phone action down in this portion of the band and it's a JOY to operate there without so much QRM.  This is what Don and I are saying about the section of 40 meters as well.  What planet do you live on Pete?

John KX5JT


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: k4kyv on July 09, 2011, 06:36:23 PM

If I were the FCC, I would apply the resources for change where there was a perceived problem.

How much FCC "resources" would it take to make a slight change in the domestic frequency allocations? Just a few strokes with a keyboard and submitting a document or two to the federal register, and issuing a public notice for comments, etc.  What else are those "career civil servants" paid their $100K a year to do?

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Even if the change was made, I would suspect the same thing will happen as what happened with the 80 meter phone band expansion. When the change was made, many initially ran down to the new segment to rally around the amateur flag, hop for joy, wave the microphone high in the air and proceeded to make contacts including many AM'ers. Within several months, the exodus was reversed and many were back to their old stomping grounds further up the band. Change can be a bitch when you're stuck in a rut.

That's their problem if they don't want to use it.  Leaves more open QRM-free space for those of us who do. I doubt if many AMers would immediately jump down to use 7000-7125 segment; but DXers would in the evening when the band is wide open to Europe. That might leave it less congested for AM operation in the vicinity of 7160.

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Personally, I don't see a problem with the current 40 meter regulation. Unless, your feeling is "they have it" "we don't" BAH, BAH "we're treated like second class citizens", etc. etc.

That's exactly the present situation. Hams in the Lower 48 are about the only ones in the entire world who aren't allowed to operate phone in 7100-7125 (and below 7100 for that matter). We here in N. America are relegated to the back of the 40m bus simply because we hold a lousy US licence. It is the FCC, ARRL, etc, who are stuck in the rut, content to retain useless frequency restrictions based on a moot issue (the now defunct exclusive allocation of 7100-7200 to international broadcasting in regions outside the Amercias).


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on July 09, 2011, 08:21:27 PM

  What planet do you live on Pete?

John KX5JT

Earth - 3rd rock from the sun.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on July 09, 2011, 08:36:53 PM

If I were the FCC, I would apply the resources for change where there was a perceived problem.

How much FCC "resources" would it take to make a slight change in the domestic frequency allocations? Just a few strokes with a keyboard and submitting a document or two to the federal register, and issuing a public notice for comments, etc.  What else are those "career civil servants" paid their $100K a year to do?

I would suspect someone there first would have to even identify it as an issue before any wheels would start to turn.

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Even if the change was made, I would suspect the same thing will happen as what happened with the 80 meter phone band expansion. When the change was made, many initially ran down to the new segment to rally around the amateur flag, hop for joy, wave the microphone high in the air and proceeded to make contacts including many AM'ers. Within several months, the exodus was reversed and many were back to their old stomping grounds further up the band. Change can be a bitch when you're stuck in a rut.

That's their problem if they don't want to use it.  Leaves more open QRM-free space for those of us who do. I doubt if many AMers would immediately jump down to use 7000-7125 segment; but DXers would in the evening when the band is wide open to Europe. That might leave it less congested for AM operation in the vicinity of 7160.

It's strange that we haven't heard complaints from the DX or even the contester crowd that this is even an issue on 40 meters.

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Personally, I don't see a problem with the current 40 meter regulation. Unless, your feeling is "they have it" "we don't" BAH, BAH "we're treated like second class citizens", etc. etc.

That's exactly the present situation. Hams in the Lower 48 are about the only ones in the entire world who aren't allowed to operate phone in 7100-7125 (and below 7100 for that matter). We here in N. America are relegated to the back of the 40m bus simply because we hold a lousy US licence. It is the FCC, ARRL, etc, who are stuck in the rut, content to retain useless frequency restrictions based on a moot issue (the now defunct exclusive allocation of 7100-7200 to international broadcasting in regions outside the Amercias).

So, submit a Petition for Rulemaking to the FCC and see if they'll take it under consideration. Bitching about it, and doing nothing about it, isn't going to go anywhere other then putting it on the same P&M list with "QEX instead of QST".



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: KX5JT on July 09, 2011, 09:10:48 PM

  What planet do you live on Pete?

John KX5JT

Earth - 3rd rock from the sun.

Alright Pete, maybe I was being a bit harsh with the planet statement.  It just seemed incredible to me that you implied the phone expansion on 80 meters was not effective.  The new area IS an asset to us, especially AMers.  

The Florida AM group meets on 3.655 Mhz AM and conducts a weekly net as well as operating casually there at any time relatively QRM free.

There is a casual group of old timer AMers that gather on 3.663 in the early mornings and afternoons as well.  

Then there is the ESSB group that plays down on 3.630 lsb who can enjoy their facet of operating relatively unmolested.

Oh did I mention trying to operate phone (SSB or AM) during a weekend night when there are contests going on full bore?  Yes the expanded portion of 80 meters is one of the bastions of sanity during these times.

Anyway, for these same reasons, expanding our 40 meter phone priveledges would be good.

John Kx5jt


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: k4kyv on July 10, 2011, 01:17:08 PM
So, submit a Petition for Rulemaking to the FCC and see if they'll take it under consideration. Bitching about it, and doing nothing about it, isn't going to go anywhere other then putting it on the same P&M list with "QEX instead of QST".

I have been seriously considering doing that.  But a petition must be well thought out and carefully worded.  I haven't taken the time to seriously get started on it, or maybe I'm just plain lazy.

But still that's no reason to gripe just because I brought up the idea on this forum for discussion. Maybe the input from others would be helpful in eventually formulating a formal petition, and if it is a good idea to begin with, it wouldn't hurt to float the idea amongst others in the amateur community before jumping in with both feet.

Remember, the ARRL initiated the discussion over the Incentive Licensing proposal months, if not years, before submitting a formal petition, and generated a lot of controversy (to say the least) on the subject before any official action was taken.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 10, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
Hi Henk,
If we are both monitoring then we cannot make contact. You state that early morning 7.200 is clear for you. It does not matter that I hear a BC station on there, you will not be hearing it.
I propose that this coming Tueday 12 July, I transmit on 7.200. This would be
morning Wed. 13 July for you.
I will transmit at 10PM and 11PM Central Daylight Time. We have 7 hours difference. You are GMT+2. That would be 5AM (0500) and 6AM (0600) your time.
If you hear me you would post it on AMFONE.NET.
This way we might get something started. Please reply if you are interested.
73,
John

John, this morning I listen again. :D
But contesters blowing all away!!
Not 7200 is mosly free after 6 O'clock by me, but around 7220 khz.
I listen every morning on 40 mtrs after that time.
When I hear a station I shall 'post' it here.

Greetings, Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 10, 2011, 03:41:45 PM
OK, Henk,
7.220 it is. Perfectly fine with me. Same time schedule as I am limited on other evenings this week. I am retired but work now more than ever. :-).
 73,
John, AA5T


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 10, 2011, 04:00:14 PM
OK, Henk,
7.220 it is. Perfectly fine with me. Same time schedule as I am limited on other evenings this week. I am retired but work now more than ever. :-).
 73,
John, AA5T

Deal John!
I try! listening every morning between 06.15 - 06.50 hour (by me)!
Maybe you can get more AM stations on +/- 7220 khz. who call?!
Perhaps a 'little-pe1mph' AM net? ;D
When I hear a station, I put info in this Item.

Good transmission,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 10, 2011, 06:39:49 PM
OK, Henk,
6:15 to 6:45 your time. 7.220, Of course, by posting this frequency and time
here on AMFone, anyone is invited to join in. If you can hear us on 7.220 +/-
then we will figure out a good spot for you to transmit. With patience we will
together work it out.
73,
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 11, 2011, 12:45:49 PM
OK, Henk,
6:15 to 6:45 your time. 7.220, Of course, by posting this frequency and time
here on AMFone, anyone is invited to join in. If you can hear us on 7.220 +/-
then we will figure out a good spot for you to transmit. With patience we will
together work it out.
73,
John

Only receiving John!
I listen only before I go to work....
And, you know, I (we) may not transmit on 7220 khz. ;D

Good transmission, Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 11, 2011, 01:04:44 PM
Hi Henk,
Yes I know that you cannot transmit on 7.220. Reply by posting onto
AMfone.net. I will look there.
73,
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: ve6pg on July 13, 2011, 12:22:11 AM
john..tim here, ve6pg, hanover, ontario..i'm hearing you, not too strong, but lots of ssb qrm..

..tim..

..sk..


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 13, 2011, 12:52:00 AM
Hi Tim,
Thanks nice to hear from you. You are a little off the directivity of my antenna.
I use a 3 element vertical parasitic array aimed at Europe. 6DB gain.
Why don't we join forces another evening. With 2 of us calling we stand a better
chance of being heard. I have contacted another EU AMer, that wants to join in.
His call F6AQK, his name Jean.
In any event let's, chat on the band one day.
73,
John
P.S. As you say plenty of QRM around 7.220 this evening.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 13, 2011, 09:35:57 AM
The results, this morning!

I listen between 06.15 - 06.45 hour by me.
My receiver Kenwood R 5000.
Ant. +/- 45 mtrs wire, connect with ant. tuner to receiver.

- 7225 KC?? station in ssb often on air early mornings
- 7208 K8?? station in ssb talking with a mobile station

- 7220 K4?? station calling often CQ, very good to hear!

I am 100% sure there were on 7220 khz AM stations on air!!!
But signals to weak for me to hear audio in AM mode...
Therefore I need to listen in ssb mode....
Freq. between 7215 - 7225 were this morning totaly free from BC-stations.
So you (AM Lovers) can use these freq. between 06.15 - 06.45 for Europe...

I listen next days again on above freq. (7215 - 7225 khz). ;D
Maybe conditions were bad today?
When I listen, its raining in Holland.

Good transmissions,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 13, 2011, 10:25:11 AM
Hi Henk,
OK you heard me calling CQ on 7220. I alternated between calling you and CQ.
I transmitted at 0500 GMT+2 and 0600 to 0625 GMT +2. That is an OK start.
I will not be on again until next Tuesday due to business. Perhaps Tim, VE6PG
would make a schedule with you. Post a mesage here on AMFONE.net for him.
73,
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: ve6pg on July 13, 2011, 11:00:51 AM
..called cq this morning, 7220 at abt. 1am eastern...no takers....this weekend i have to finish repairs to my 40m vert. at present, using a viking 2 cc, sx101 and 160m loop with owl, at 70 feet...the vertical does well, so that might be the trick...been active on 7220 most mornings, as i get home from work around midnight...

..tim..

..sk..


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 13, 2011, 01:22:39 PM
Hi Henk,
OK you heard me calling CQ on 7220. I alternated between calling you and CQ.
I transmitted at 0500 GMT+2 and 0600 to 0625 GMT +2. That is an OK start.
I will not be on again until next Tuesday due to business. Perhaps Tim, VE6PG
would make a schedule with you. Post a mesage here on AMFONE.net for him.
73,
John

You call K4????
If thats you I heard mention sometimes CQ!
Then  I heard you loud & clear on 7220.

Greetings, PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 13, 2011, 02:20:57 PM
Hi Henk,
Some confusion here. I did not give a K, call, I gave AA5T. However, I was calling
CQ,CQ. There were SSB stations above and below 7.220. I was between them.
I did call you PE1MPH many times. It could have been a K station that I did not hear.
We will probably never know for sure.
I will try again next Tuesday.
73,
John

 


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 14, 2011, 08:57:48 AM
Hi Henk,
If you listened on SSB you must have heard the AM carrier. The audio might
be missing but the carrier should have been heard at 350 watts.
73,
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: ve6pg on July 14, 2011, 12:05:04 PM
..i was on 7220 this morn, at 1am w/carl, kb3rdt..condx not bad...b'cast station came on at 1:45 am, so we both shut down...there were other carries, and someone called me during carl's tx, but he did not return...will try agn tonight..

..tim..

..sk..


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 14, 2011, 01:07:10 PM
..i was on 7220 this morn, at 1am w/carl, kb3rdt..condx not bad...b'cast station came on at 1:45 am, so we both shut down...there were other carries, and someone called me during carl's tx, but he did not return...will try agn tonight..
..tim..
..sk..

This morning I heard only 2 ssb stations on 7215, mention Ohio?
But I listen every morning between 06.15 - 06.45 on 40 mtrs.

Good dx, pe1mph, Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 17, 2011, 12:31:14 AM
Hello.

Now on 7180 in AM:
F6AQK
PE1BIW
9H1ES

I made recording from Jean (F6AQK) on 7180 khz.

Next week (mornings by me) I monitor again on +/- 7220! ;D

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 21, 2011, 01:15:38 PM
Hello AM Lovers,

Last days I heard totaly nothing around 7220 in AM!
You know I listen mornings between 06.15 - 06.45 hour by me!
Between 7220 - 7225 khz is (mostly) free.
And on 7215 khz I hear sometimes a carrier, without audio.

Maybe next days I can hear am.....?

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 22, 2011, 09:43:24 AM
Hi Henk,
I have been out of town but am now back. I will be on 7.220 tonight Friday,
22 July. 11:15 to 11:45 PM Central Daylight Time. You are GMT + 2.
0615 to 0645 AM Saturday morning.
You can reply on AMFONE if you hear me. Otherwise let me know what
frequency you will transmit on so that I can listen for you.
73,
John, AA5T


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 22, 2011, 12:40:55 PM
Hi Henk, I have been out of town but am now back. I will be on 7.220 tonight Friday, 22 July. 11:15 to 11:45 PM Central Daylight Time. You are GMT + 2.
0615 to 0645 AM Saturday morning.
73, John, AA5T

This morning I listen between 06.00 - 06.50 hour (by me!).
I am 100% sure I heard +/- 06.05 a station calling: CQ, CQ, CQ on 7220 khz.
Sorry the station mention his call to fast for me to understand it correct!
And between +/- 06.35 - 06.45 I could hear 2 stations in AM.
But conditions dropping down, not possible to understand who speaking.
Later I received a 'naked weak' carrier on 7220, without audio.

Greetings, Henk / PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Ralph W3GL on July 22, 2011, 03:12:32 PM

   I was on calling CQ at that time Henk... What I spoke was
   "CQ CQ CQ, Seeking You on 7220 in the AM mode" and made
   multiple transmissions from 0400 to  0415 GMT...

    At about 0420 or so I heard a carrier appear on frequency and
    had a 15 minute chat with Carl, KB3RDT in North West Pennsylvania.
 
     He was running 100 watts to a dipole at 30 meters high and my out-
     put was about 350 watts to the 200' Center Fed Zepp at 30 meters
     high.



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on July 23, 2011, 12:33:57 AM
hello i heard aa5t calling cq and i fired up then got a phone call i am bout to call cq at 12:35 eastern time


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: ve6pg on July 23, 2011, 12:40:06 AM
..john..tim here...hearing you here, in ve3...band is quiet, but u r not too strong here...i give a call in a few minutes...

..sk..


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on July 23, 2011, 01:02:43 AM
Hi Tim,
Great to chat with you on 40M AM. I am having some trouble with my AM amp.
Seems as soon as it gets hot it has a problem. I will replace  it with a backup amp.
I usually use my Globe King but don't have crystals for 7.220.
Seems you are in VE3 land. I used to work in Detroit and have visited most of VE3 land. Did not receive any reply from the guys in EU.
Thanks for the call.
73,
John, AA5T




Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: ve6pg on July 23, 2011, 01:12:31 AM
..no john, just heard you..i'm a little surprised more are not getting on 40...band seems in good shape, not much noise...i'm hearing ssb guys around n.america, so propagation seems ok...just keep trying, i guess..

..tim..

..sk..


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 23, 2011, 03:35:51 AM
I was on calling CQ at that time Henk... What I spoke was "CQ CQ CQ, Seeking You on 7220 in the AM mode" and made multiple transmissions from 0400 to  0415 GMT...
At about 0420 or so I heard a carrier appear on frequency and had a 15 minute chat with Carl, KB3RDT in North West Pennsylvania.

Nice to hear you calling, no problem to hear the words: CQ, CQ.... ;D
Then I heard you later on 7220 again with another station?
But then very difficult to copy, maybe conditions were 'worse' then before?

This morning (Saturday by me) I heard totaly nothing around 7220 khz.
The BC station on 7180 khz were good to copy (S2 - S6), but I could not understand it.
Sounding like Asia or China language?

Tomorrow (Sundaymorning), just after 06.00 hours, F6AQK will be on 40 mtrs.
Perhaps around 7185 khz, ofcourse in AM, calling.

Greetings, Henk / PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 24, 2011, 12:14:13 AM
NOW!

On 7170:
F6AQK
PE1BIW
PE1MPH

Greetings,

Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on July 24, 2011, 12:25:22 AM
hello I am on 7.220 right now calling cq no takers lots of static crashes here in nwpa

                                                                                        Carl KB3RDT


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 24, 2011, 12:28:51 AM
hello I am on 7.220 right now calling cq no takers lots of static crashes here in nwpa

                                                                                        Carl KB3RDT

We are now on 7170!
I hear F6AQK on New Yorks webreceiver (weak). :D

And I listen on 7220 khz! ;D

Can you hear us.....?


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on July 24, 2011, 02:13:19 PM
hello I am on 7.220 right now calling cq no takers lots of static crashes here in nwpa Carl KB3RDT

Hello AM Lovers, today almost the hole day rain in Holland!

We have seen the last Tour de France day on tv.
And this morning (early) I heard am on 40 mtrs.
On 7220 some noise, or static.... no stations heard!
At 06.00 Jean F6AQK calling on 7185, but freq. not clean.
So he moved to 7170 khz. and this freq. totaly clean/free!
- Jean F6AQK by me in Dokkum good signal, max. S6 - S9+5.
I could not receive PE1BIW, his qth maybe close to me....
- On webreceiver in Italia, I heard: F6AQK, PE1BIW and PE1MPH.
I used only 25 Watts in my end feeded longwire.
- On webreceiver in New York, I heard: F6AQK, but not all (most words).
While we were talking, I listen with another receiver to 7220.
But totaly nothing around that freq., on +/- 7115 a 'naked carrier'.
I have heard, around 7158, ssb from usa, but very weak signals. ;D

So that are the results for today (Sunday).
Next week I monitor again early mornings around 7220 khz.
If I hear AM, between 06.15 - 06.45 hour by me, I post it! :D

Greetings,

PE1MPH / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on August 04, 2011, 12:32:55 AM
Hello i am calling cq on 7.220 all i hear is ssb little static crashes but pretty clean tonight


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on August 05, 2011, 08:48:38 PM
Hi Carl,
OK on your 40M AM effort. I am not sure what is really going on. The 2 Fridays
that I transmitted, I received no reply from EU. I am running 300 watts to a 6dB
gain antenna directed to NE. You have not received any reply either.
In a past posting Henk, PE1MPH said he was runnig 25 watts? I don't think there
is much of a chance to hear him. Maybe in dead of winter but not now.
Tim, VE6PG, what are your thoughts?
73,
John


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: Steve - K4HX on August 05, 2011, 08:53:05 PM
Anyone around tonight?


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: ve6pg on August 06, 2011, 08:23:49 AM
..well john, i'm not hearing any stuff, aside from ssb, and cw..either from the vert, or loop...maybe we need fall/winter condx for this?..

..tim..

..sk..


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on August 08, 2011, 12:37:27 AM
hello i think last week with my rec on 7.220 12 am eastern time zone usa i hear is crap no good mode been being heard at my loc.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 08, 2011, 02:41:38 AM
Just back. :D

We were for 1 week on vacation (camping middle Holland).
But I heard no stations on 7220 khz.
Maybe bad conditions?
But I keep my eye around 7220 khz...

Greetings,

PE1MPH / Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on August 08, 2011, 11:41:00 AM
Hi Henk,
Good that you had a nice holiday. Please provide us with some information
about your AM operating conditions in Holland.

What is the maximum AM output power allowed in Holland and the rest of EU.
What power do you and the others usually run when calling the US?
What kinds of antennas are you and the others using for these Transatlantic
AM tests?
When does Holland and EU go back to standard time. i.e. GMT + 1 hour.
On what 40M frequencies can you transmit AM?

This information might help us get something started with Transatlantic AM.
73,
John, AA5T



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 08, 2011, 01:58:19 PM
Hi Henk,
Good that you had a nice holiday. Please provide us with some information
about your AM operating conditions in Holland.
What is the maximum AM output power allowed in Holland and the rest of EU.
What power do you and the others usually run when calling the US?
What kinds of antennas are you and the others using for these Transatlantic
AM tests?
When does Holland and EU go back to standard time. i.e. GMT + 1 hour.
On what 40M frequencies can you transmit AM?
This information might help us get something started with Transatlantic AM.
73,
John, AA5T

Hello AM Lover,
Sundaymornings (+/- 06.00 hour by us) often F6AQK calling on 40 mtrs in AM, mostly around 7185 khz.
But it is difficult to find a free/clean AM freq. to talk with the USA!
Therefore I listen often around 7220 khz, to know when we can hear AM from the USA.....

We are now some days at home, it is raining..... no camping weather!
But when the Sun is comming, we go again to the camping... ;D

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on August 11, 2011, 11:44:50 PM
hello anyone going be on 7.220 12:00 or after i will be listening if i hear anyone i'll join! ;D


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 14, 2011, 06:32:39 AM
Hello,

Around 06.00 hour I listen to 40 mtrs.
On +/- 7220 khz I heard some USA stations, but in ssb mode.

But, AM Lovers, on 7185 I heard F6AQK calling!
His signal were weak to fair, but this freq. were clean.
A little after his 'cq in AM', I heard Fortunato 9H1ES on +/- 7185 khz.
I were falling nearly from my chair, such big signal!!!!
Jean had only S3 by me, but Fortunato got S9.

Therefore I 'run' ;D to my studio and tuning my Allbander on 7185.
And I tried to get a qso with both.... sorry for me ;D..... no contact!
I tried my end-feeded longwire and my dipole, but no reaction!
But a little later on 7185 I heard a strange noise.
It sounding like rtty.....
So for not possible to receive Jean and Fortunato anymore.
'Thats a pity', I thought....
Maybe thats the reason why both did not heard me???
I heard Jean mention he goes qsy to the French AM freq. (3550)....

Around 06.25 they were gone...
And I listen again around 7220, but still many ssb stations.

Thats all happening this morning,

pe1mph, Henk
Dokkum, The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 17, 2011, 12:27:40 AM
Hello!

A little past 06.10 hour this morning...
I heard a station in AM calling cq, cq on 7220 khz.
Weak to fair signal, but I heard CQ.
The freq. 7220 (and 7195) are clean / free! :D

Just, +/- 06.25, I heard the man calling again.
But, sorry for him, no station returning for him....

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: WA3VJB on August 17, 2011, 04:52:10 AM
Hallo Henk, 0945 GMT and I guess you're already at work ...

We will have to stretch our schedules and find when to get on at the same time.


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 17, 2011, 01:46:23 PM
Hallo Henk, 0945 GMT and I guess you're already at work ...

We will have to stretch our schedules and find when to get on at the same time.

Now I have hollidays.... ;D
And normaly I go +/- 06.50 CET to my work.
Thats 06.50 + 2 = 08.50 GMT time.
See:
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/the-netherlands/amsterdam/

If you were this morning calling on 7220, I heard you. :D
Totally free (alone) on this freq. and 7190 + 7195 were evenso free.
Lower then 7190 were ssb and b.c.-stations.

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 19, 2011, 01:41:10 AM
Heard this (19 aug.) morning,

Between +/- 06.05 - 06.25 on 7220 khz.
(06.05 - 06.25 CET, time by me)
Often I heard a station calling in AM mode: CQ, CQ 40 mtrs.
Signal were fair, with many fading.
Pity I had 'storm disturbance' on my receiver.
So for me not possible to copy the call correct.

And again 7220 khz were totaly free this morning, after 6 o'clock!
'Except' the noise from thunder. ;D

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: PA4WM on August 19, 2011, 03:29:05 AM

What is the maximum AM output power allowed in Holland and the rest of EU.

This information might help us get something started with Transatlantic AM.
73,
John, AA5T

Hello John,

don't know about the rest of Europe, but the legal limit in Holland is 400 watt PEP.
So, for AM that would mean 100 watt carrier when modulating 100%...

Altough licensed  for 32 yrs now, I'm new to the AM scene.., but from my DX days I know most of the guys use dipoles or 2 element yagis on 40m.

Regards,

Martin, PA4WM




Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on August 20, 2011, 10:46:01 AM
Hi Martin,
Thanks for your reply to my posted message. 100 watts carrier should be OK.
Welcome to AM. You will find it to be a little more talk than the usual SSB contacts.
I don't know exactly where you are in Holland. I have been to Holland many times
working with Shell Research in The Hague.
Sunrise in Amsterdam is at 6:30 AM your time, so I suspect a contact would be before
that time. PE1MPH, Henk, has reported that 7220 is generally clear about that time.
6:30 in Holland is 23:30 CDT. (Central Daylight Time) 7 hours. There is a SSB net
on every evening, except Friday and Saturday. The net runs from 19:30 to 21:00
CDT. All those in the net, including myself run 1KW SSB. The moderator of the net is
K1GZL. Frequency used is usually between 7140 and 7150. Occasionally a DX station
will join in. You might listen for that group as a check on Transatlantic propagation
to your QTH. Some time between 21:00 and 23:30 CDT is the opening window.
I am usually free Friday evening, i.e. your Saturday morning. I can transmit 300 watts AM carrier on 7220.
If you would like to give it a try, let me know what is a convienient frequency for
you to transmit on. I will listen there and check that no Broadcast is on that
frequency. I would suggest your transmit frequency be below 7125.
Over a period of many years I operated with a DX group that maintained regular
40M SSB contacts with So. Africa. So 40M should be good for an AM contact.
73,
John, AA5T
   


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 21, 2011, 05:37:23 AM
Sunrise in Amsterdam is at 6:30 AM your time, so I suspect a contact would be before that time. PE1MPH, Henk, has reported that 7220 is generally clear about that time. 6:30 in Holland is 23:30 CDT. (Central Daylight Time) 7 hours.
The net runs from 19:30 to 21:00 CDT. The moderator of the net is K1GZL. Frequency used is usually between 7140 and 7150. You might listen for that group as a check on Transatlantic propagation to your QTH.
73, John, AA5T

John, thats correct about the time by us (and Sun!).
After 06.00 the freq. 7220 is clean/free in Holland.
I will try to receive that 'net', but it is not always on the same freq.?
So I must listen between 7140 - 7150 khz to find the 'net'.
Your idea is good, we (I) can try to receive....
But I listen evenso (mostly) every morning around 7220 khz. ;D
This morning I stayed longer in bed, I heard at night 'contesters'on 40. :'(

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 22, 2011, 02:35:02 AM
PE1MPH, Henk, has reported that 7220 is generally clear about that time. There is a SSB net on every evening, except Friday and Saturday. Frequency used is usually between 7140 and 7150. Occasionally a DX station will join in. You might listen for that group as a check on Transatlantic propagation to your QTH.
73, John, AA5T

John I did...... ;D
This morning (by me) at +/- 06.20 I heard on +/- 7142 (ssb): K2DDK and K5HCT
K2 with weak signal, but K5 good to copy!
Only 'annoying' often a SP5-station calling on the same freq.
So not pretty listening for me.... (for nobody I think!). :'(
This morning again after 06.00 the 7220 were totaly free/clean...
A pity I heard nobody in AM on that freq....

Greetings,

Henk, pe1mph
Dokkum, The Netherlands



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: WA2ONK on August 23, 2011, 12:57:57 AM
Was calling CQ on 7220 from about 0300Z til 0430Z. CQ'ing every 5 to 7 minutes. Thought I heard an answer but when I qrz'ed no reply...    Chuck..


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 23, 2011, 02:18:14 AM
Was calling CQ on 7220 from about 0300Z til 0430Z. CQ'ing every 5 to 7 minutes. Thought I heard an answer but when I qrz'ed no reply...    Chuck..

Hello Chuck!
This morning, 23 aug., I listen between 06.00 - 06.30 to 40 mtrs.
Just after 06.00 o'clock I hear CQ, CQ 40 mtrs on 7220 khz! :)
Signal were weak/fair S1/S3, but not possible for me to get call (complete).
Sorry, but to copy all audio... the signal were a little to weak....
Indeed I heard often this (you!) station speaking in AM mode this morning.
The freq. 7220 khz. were complete alone in use by this station....
A pity nobody give him a report or say 'Hello'.
Hopefull more stations want to use this AM freq.

Later in the morning the signal on 7220 khz. were 'nearly' not to hear.
So just after 06.00 hour I heard Chuck better, then +/- 06.25 hour.

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum /  The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: AA5T on August 25, 2011, 10:49:26 AM
Hi Henk,
I have been listening on 7180 to 7185. This from 03:00 GMT to 04:30 GMT.
It seems that 40M quiets down after 03:30 GMT. I suspect that since sunrise
in Holland is about 4:30 GMT you are having to much daylight for good
Transatlantic propagation at that time. Perhaps an hour earlier in the 03:00 to
03:30 GMT time frame. I could transmit on 7220 and listen around 7180 to 7185.
Note: There appears to be some net on 7186, so best to stay below there.
I would try this Friday 26 Aug. Saturday morning in EU.
Of course any AMer is welcome to join in.
Let me know your thoughts.
73,
John, AA5T
 


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 25, 2011, 02:36:42 PM
Hi Henk,
I have been listening on 7180 to 7185. This from 03:00 GMT to 04:30 GMT.
It seems that 40M quiets down after 03:30 GMT. I suspect that since sunrise
in Holland is about 4:30 GMT you are having to much daylight for good
Transatlantic propagation at that time. Perhaps an hour earlier in the 03:00 to 03:30 GMT time frame. I could transmit on 7220 and listen around 7180 to 7185.
Note: There appears to be some net on 7186, so best to stay below there.
I would try this Friday 26 Aug. Saturday morning in EU.
Of course any AMer is welcome to join in.
Let me know your thoughts.
73,
John, AA5T

Hello AM Lover,
This morning (after 06.00 hour by me) I heard on +/- 7175 strange noise.
Sounding like RTTY, very strong, splattering many higher and lower.
On 7180 khz I heard a strong B.C. station, sounding Arabic?!
And on 7195 an Italian ssb station calling often cq....
But I am sure around 06.25 I heard a station calling cq, cq 40 mtrs.
Signal were weak to fair on 7220 khz, with a strong fading.
I did 'all I could' to copy the call... but very difficult.
Speak please slowly your call for us Europeans....
And again this station (you John?) were alone on this freq.
Totaly free and clean on this freq, with S1 to S3.
I mentioned before, on 7215 khz mostly a 'naked carrier'....
And again: 7220 - 7225 is complete free between 6 and 7 in Europe!!
So when you are earlier on 7220 I can not receive AM from the USA!

I would John there will be more stations on 7220 in AM!
Now you are alone 'speaking in the AM sky...'.

Oh yes, this I would say.... ;D
When I can hear the B.C. station on 1510 khz (MW) early mornings.
If conditions are good, I can receive some USA (AM) stations on MW.
And if I hear WWZN Boston, then mostly good conditions on mw and sw!
This morning I heard WWZN with 'many (Gospel) talk'.

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum /  The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: WA2ONK on August 25, 2011, 03:07:36 PM
Hi Henk,
  You said:

 "But I am sure around 06.25 I heard a station calling cq, cq 40 mtrs.
Signal were weak to fair on 7220 khz, with a strong fading.
I did 'all I could' to copy the call... but very difficult."


  That may have been me?? I was on calling cq every 5 to 7 minutes on 7220khz from about 0350Z to 0430Z. Again, no answers.

Chuck...wa2onk


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on August 25, 2011, 03:38:15 PM
Hi Henk,
  You said:
 "But I am sure around 06.25 I heard a station calling cq, cq 40 mtrs.
Signal were weak to fair on 7220 khz, with a strong fading.
I did 'all I could' to copy the call... but very difficult."

  That may have been me?? I was on calling cq every 5 to 7 minutes on 7220khz from about 0350Z to 0430Z. Again, no answers.

Chuck...wa2onk

Chuck maybe.... :D
Sorry I could not copy the call correct...
And after 06.30 the freq. 7220 were totaly clean, no other stations calling.

But Chuck now after 06.15 hour it is getting light by us....
So we are comming later in the year.... (you understand me!).

This week (tomorrow) my last holiday...
We got in Holland plenty rain in July and August!
Next week I keep on listening, before I go again to my work. ;D
I hope I can log many AM stations on 7220 from the USA.

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum /  Holland




Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on November 08, 2011, 08:42:59 AM
Hello,

Now we have in Europa Wintertime.
A pity about 7220 khz not free just after 06.00 hour (05.00 Londen GMT).
But one hour later....
Sorry I can not find a clean/free freq. below 7200 khz for AM.
Often B.C.-stations and often ssb-stations on air.

But still every Sunday, just after 6 o'clock Jean F6AQK calling.
Mostly around 7185 khz in AM.

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: kb3rdt on November 08, 2011, 08:18:07 PM
broadcast been strong here I been scaning at night early morning no openings I do know some of the broadcast are over 20 kc wide!


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: N8AFT on November 12, 2011, 05:07:21 PM
Jean is f6aqk on 7185, at what time GMT? ( Universal Time ) I am up at 0500GMT here in U.S. during weekdays..
Do you have a frequency and GMT sked for 11-13-11? Maybe we can QSO...


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on November 13, 2011, 01:55:24 PM
Jean is f6aqk on 7185, at what time GMT? ( Universal Time ) I am up at 0500GMT here in U.S. during weekdays..
Do you have a frequency and GMT sked for 11-13-11? Maybe we can QSO...

Jean is (mostly) every Sundaymorning calling around 7185 khz.
(around 05.00 Londen GMT time, by us 06.00 hour)
If freq. is busy, he goes qsy to better freq.

This morning I heard only a strong Italian station in ssb on 7190 calling.
But he blows all away from the freq. near 7190 khz.
Therefore I did not call Jean, because I heard him not calling!

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on November 20, 2011, 06:20:28 AM
Hello AM Lovers,
This morning already before 06.00 I heard Jean calling on 7185 khz!
So I went to my studio.... and say 'Hello Jean'.
He heard me.... I using only 25 Watts!

The results on 7185 khz:
- Jean, F6AQK, max. S9+, good audio
-  Fortunato, 9H1ES, max. S4, heavy fading!

But a pity... contesters on the band.
And sometimes they blowing Fortunato complete away!
We heard no USA AM station....

Thats all for this morning,

Henk
pe1mph
Dokkum
The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on December 04, 2011, 07:52:50 AM
Hello AM Lovers,
This morning I listen just after 06.00 o'clock.
And I heard Fortunato 9H1ES  calling on 7185 khz.

My S-meter goes from 0 - 2.
Some moments I hear some words good.
Then a little moment Fortunato were complete gone.
I heard him talking about Jean (F6AQK)!
But I heard no Jean...
Later a very strong ssb station calling on 7180.
So for not possible to hear am on 7185 khz.
Therefore I go to my bed again....

Later in the morning, I were in our livingroom.
And my receiver still standing on 7185 khz.
I heard Italians in AM  on +/- 7193 khz.Time were around 10.15 hour by me!
I heard IW5CI  in qso with PA2TB
And IW has a big signal: S7
Henk (PA2TB) only S3 by me, but good to copy.

I thought: 'Where is this Henk comming from. Never heard him before on 40 mtrs'.
And pity... I did heard him not back on the freq.
I were wondering why, because I heard more Italians calling!

Later I got an email from Henk, his fuse were broken!

Thats all for this morning,

Henk
pe1mph
Dokkum, The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on March 11, 2012, 05:40:43 AM
Hello AM Lovers,
This morning (11 mrt 2012 I listen to this band.
Between 05.50 - 06.15, our time, I listen.

- 7165 Broadcaster, S3
- 7175 Broadcaster, S7
- 7180 Broadcaster, S1

- 7185 9H1ES, Fortunato, calling cq in AM, S7

Ofcourse I calling to him, but no reply! ;D
Maybe +/- 25 Watts is not enough?
But I were wondering how good I heard him.
Total alone and free on this freq.

It seems that F6AQK, Jean, were evenso calling.
But I did not heard him....

And between 7185 - 7195 nothing on air!!

Greetings,

Henk
PE1MPH
Dokkum, The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: VE3LYX on March 11, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
7145 in seven hours,if possible. I will call. 
Don VE3LYX


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on March 13, 2012, 01:58:51 PM
7145 in seven hours,if possible. I will call. 
Don VE3LYX

Mostly around that freq ssb!
I think the around 7190 is a better choise.

Greetings,

Henk, pe1mph


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: VE3LYX on March 13, 2012, 09:59:18 PM
I dont have a 7190 crystal. 7145 or 7290. Soon I will have a 7120 and 7140. This new rig is rock bound.
Don Ve3LYX


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on March 14, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
I dont have a 7190 crystal. 7145 or 7290. Soon I will have a 7120 and 7140. This new rig is rock bound.
Don Ve3LYX

Hello Don,
Ofcourse I can listen sometimes to 7145 khz!
Around 06.30 hour (05.30 GMT) in the morning by me.
I can monitoring that freq.

This morning the Arabic? broadcaster on 7175 khz were max. S5 by me.

Greetings, Henk, pe1mph


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on March 27, 2012, 01:23:55 PM
Hello,

Now Summertime in Europa. ;)
So check around 7220 khz if there is a free freq.
I do the same, early mornings...

Around 06.30 by me, see:
http://www.weerstationuithuizermeeden.nl/Wereldklok.htm


Greetings,

Henk
pe1mph
Dokkum, The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on March 28, 2012, 10:57:38 AM
Hello,

This morning I have been listening to 40 mtrs.
At 06.30 hour by me I heard a BC station comming on air on 7120 khz.
It sounding like an Arabic station, only max. S3 by me.

Freq. on the left & right from this station are free/clean.
I mean +/- 7115 and around 7127 khz.

You know we may not transmit there, but I can receive...
So I keep my ears and eyes on 7115 & 7127  khz mornings.
When I hear an AM station, you read this info under this 'Topic/Subject'. ;D

Good dx,

Henk, pe1mph
Dokkum, The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: WA3VJB on March 28, 2012, 08:41:53 PM
Henk are you also able to transmit?

I would enjoy working you some time, and have heard my signal through your Dokkum node on globaltuners.com.



Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on March 29, 2012, 12:45:47 PM
Henk are you also able to transmit?
I would enjoy working you some time, and have heard my signal through your Dokkum node on globaltuners.com.

Yes I can transmit...
But first I want to receive AM from the USA! :)
On my own receiver in Dokkum.

'Dokkum node globaltuners.com' is not my webreceiver.
This is from another Henk, qth close to Dokkum.

Greetings, Henk, qth Dokkum!


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on April 01, 2012, 07:38:25 AM
Hello AM Lovers,

This morning, April the first, on 40 good conditions!!!!
Between 06.00 - 06.30 hour by me.
On 7185 khz I heard Fortunato (9H1ES) with a good signal and audio: max. S8!
Only with a slow fading and a little 'up' ssb from the USA.

I called, but I suppose... 25 Watts is to low?
Fortunato 9H1ES were talking by Jean by phone I think.... hi, hi...
I heard no Jean F6AQK, only a weak carrier.
But carrier from him or weak Broadcast station?

Later I listen in our livingroom again to 40 mtrs.
Around 08.15 hour! in the morning...
And I heard in ssb F5GN from France on +/- 7187 on air in ssb.
He worked many stations from the USA: W5, W9, KD and more.
Plenty stations for him on air....
And I could receive the most in our livingroom!
So I think this morning very good conditions on 40 mtrs...
But..but.... I heard NO AM station from the usa.


Greetings,

pe1mph
Henk
Dokkum


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on April 08, 2012, 08:11:07 AM
Hello AM Lovers,

This (First Easter) morning the same story...
Fortunato on 7185 khz only to receive, no Jean on 7185 in AM.
But poor conditions, 9H1ES only S3 by me.

Evenso I listen between 06 - 06.20 (our time!) to +/- 7215 & +/- 7225. :)
Some moments I thought 'I hear AM around 7220 khz!'
I listen very good, but I could not understand...
Maybe a BC station or... or AM from the USA?
If yes, who?

Greetings,

Henk, pe1mph Dokkum, The Netherlands


Title: Re: 40 meters early mornings in Europe
Post by: pe1mph on April 16, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
AM lovers on 40,

You know I monitor early mornings above 7200 khz.
And I thought 7220 khz is free before 06.30 hour by me: but NO!
During last weekend a BC starting much earlier on 7220 khz!

So during the weekend 7220 khz is not free/clean....  :'(

There is a little place (freq.) free, just around 7227 khz.

I keep my 'eyes & ears' around that freq. for you... ;)

Greetings,

Henk, pe1mph
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