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Title: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: w1vtp on December 28, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
Regarding my subject "My mobile KW"

http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=25004.0

Just reading a Heathkit ad from April 1966 QST.  The HP24 weighs out at 22 lbs.  Just checked my homebrewed PS - it weighs 30 lbs.  How 'bout that for some beef?

In a previous post someone suggested a power inverter.  Anyone have any thoughts on this ?

http://www.amazon.com/Power-when-Recreational-Traveling-Emergency-Electronics/dp/B0039H5BZA/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1293591131&sr=1-2-fkmr0

Al

PS: wish I knew how to to that nice url insert thingie


Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: WA1GFZ on December 28, 2010, 10:13:25 PM
Wow that's cool but you will need to feed it 300 amps to get full power.


Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on December 28, 2010, 11:26:51 PM

PS: wish I knew how to to that nice url insert thingie

What? Insert a picture? Something else?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61ek2EhCkqL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)


Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: SM6OID on December 29, 2010, 06:58:15 AM
Hej!

My experience is that inverters like that generates a LOT OF RF JUNK.
Output voltage is usually a "modified square wave".
Some inverters that I've come across seems to have great difficulties to regulate the output voltage if the load is anything that is very different from resistive.


Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: KL7OF on December 29, 2010, 09:54:47 AM
Wow that's cool but you will need to feed it 300 amps to get full power.
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Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: WA1GFZ on December 29, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
Yea, but Al is an EMI guy.


Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: KF1Z on December 29, 2010, 11:09:06 AM
A 100 watt light bulb in the trunk will help smooth the inverter output.

When I was "off the grid" I used a cheap truckstop inverter to run a motor that was pulse-width speed controlled..
It ran really rough and jumpy untill I turned on the light, then it smoothed out really well.

Pure sine wave inverters are getting cheaper all the time, and generate no more noise than a good switching PS ( that is after all what an inverter IS).



Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: WA1GFZ on December 29, 2010, 12:18:34 PM
The newer inverters run at a high sample frequency so the magnetics get smaller.
A minimum resistive load makes any switcher happy.


Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: w1vtp on December 29, 2010, 10:16:38 PM
Wish I could get more info on that beast. l wouldn't even consider an inverter that put out a SQ wave.  The web site won't offer a manual.


Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: K5WLF on December 29, 2010, 11:03:41 PM
Al,

At that price and that advertised output, I'll GUARANTEE that it's a modified square wave (or as the marketing geeks call it modified sine wave). There's just no way any manufacturer could build a true sine machine and sell it for that.

Xantrex and Samlex are two manufacturers of good quality, true sine wave inverters.

http://www.xantrex.com (http://www.xantrex.com)
http://www.samlexamerica.com (http://www.samlexamerica.com)

ldb
K5WLF


Title: Re: My mobile KW (PS updated)
Post by: K9PNP on December 31, 2010, 12:37:34 PM
This inverter uses a "modified sine wave", which is shown to be a square wave in the reference.  At least it is not a "pulse width modulated" sine wave;  I have had all kinds of interference problems with those, especially if not grounded exactly like the manual says.  Here is the manual for the 3000T.
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