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I remember there was a topic last year in regards to the Super Bowl halftime show and this year they announced it would be the Black Eyed Peas for the 2011 show.

Seems to me I recall mentioning something about having worthless acts and didn’t I mention the Black Eyed Peas as being one of those. Who votes for this stuff?  Do the networks actually call the public and do surveys?

I say bring on more of the old geezers. They already had the number 1 greatest live band of all time and last year they had the second greatest live band so I would have voted for the 3 greatest live band. Maybe its just me ::)

Classic: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zz6_neil-young-crazy-horse-cinnamon-gir_music

Recent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jT2xHSRzNw&feature=related

Amen, Brother.

I don't watch sports, but sometimes check out these big events.

When I see these useless groups performing, I sometimes wonder what the rest of the world is thinking. Here is the USA, a high profile country beaming this awful crap around the world as a representation of our best entertainment.  Some of the rap and other screaming is sheer embarassment. 

In terms of radio-minded people like us, think of all the power, studio equipment, jobs, money and infrastructure wasted to beam this stuff around the whirl.

Then the football games. What a waste of energy all year long. Just think of how many bridges, buildings, roads could be built - and acres of crops grown by all these healthy players and couch potato fans.  HA!!

Or maybe it's, "Hey, we're the USA - we're in your face - like it or not."  I can appreciate that attitude.



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I must be turning into an OB. Brrrr.. time for a nap.

T

Neil can go back to Canada eh?  ;)

On another note, to those of us who do watch sports, what's with these crappy grunge bands they play whilst running highlights? I know I'm out of touch but I also know that there are like-minded people wondering the same thing. They can drop that sheiβen any time.

OK, then, bring back Janet Jackson.

Bill said:

Yeah, at least she doesn't pee in her drawers like Fergie does.  ;)

Greatest live band? Based on what?

Pink Floyd

Maybe greatest studio band. I don't think those guys could play live with all those special effects, overdubbing and track layering.

I may be required to attend the SB. I would rather be somewhere else doing something else. ATV riding, working on a radio set, changing a light bulb..

Steve said:
I dunno Steve. I saw them doing their "Animals" concert and it was very impressive. Of course I might have been effected by 'outside influences' during that time.  ;)

Anyone for 'Pigs On A Wing'?

Listened to Animals tape every Monday morning going up the CA 405 rat race.
Sometimes I would sing along.

Sure they did it. But not very often. How many times did they tour? And how many dates were on the tour(s)? Compare and contrast this number to that of the Stones or the Dead.

I can't argue with you on that point Steve. However, The Wall was a pretty good tour although I missed it. When I got station out in Mare Island, CA back in 1981, I was waiting for a bus at Oakland when I looked out side the bus station. There was a black & white poster with a red rose on it with that date, (the day I was there), and time on it. I kicked myself in the arse for not getting to CA earlier. I did eventually see them at the 'Benefit for Vietnam Vets' concert.

Frank, I got my son hooked on Ummagumma's 'Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With A Pict' tune.

I'll admit my bias for "good" live bands are ones that don't use a bunch of gadgets, magic boxes, massive overdubs and layering in the studio, and ones that can jam (but still be tight) and don't play the song the same (as the studio recording) every time. The lights, smoke and all that other stuff are fluff. But that's my bias.

I saw the Dead a number of times. 2 songs to get it into high gear then they rocked until the town turned off the lights

Thinking back here's some of the more memorable performances I've seen - some solo performers:

Chambers Brothers at UConn  - (Time has come)

Mahavisnu Orchestra

Stevie Wonder

Wayne Newton in Las Vegas  (Don't laugh - he was great)

Johnny Mathis in Las Vegas   (Another big surprise - his version of "Brazil" is outstanding)

Blood Sweat and Tears


And:  
The Beatles playing at a private JJ Magical Mystery Tour house party - '69

Led Zepplin playing at a private JJ acid house party -  '72

 ;)

T

Thinking back here's some of the more memorable performances I've seen - some solo performers:

Chambers Brothers at UConn  - (Time has come)

Mahavisnu Orchestra

Stevie Wonder

Wayne Newton in Las Vegas  (Don't laugh - he was great)

Johnny Mathis in Las Vegas   (Another big surprise - his version of "Brazil" is outstanding)

Blood Sweat and Tears


And: 
The Beatles playing at a private JJ Magical Mystery Tour house party - '69

Led Zepplin playing at a private JJ acid house party -  '72

 ;)

....I guess "ABBA" doesn't cut it .... ..

klc

    I hate being an old fuddy-duddy but the last time I checked this was
    the AM Forum > AM BULLETIN BOARD...

    What does this thread (Super Bowl Show 2011) have to do with AM radio?

From the QSO section description.


Any subject is probably too broad. But this section has always included reasonable non-radio and non-AM topics. I guess we can argue about what is reasonable.  :D

I'm surprised any of us can hear anything what with the various lists of loud bands we saw.  

I stumbled upon the speaker system decommissioned from the Filmore Auditorium in San Francisco gathering dust unceremoniously in a Mountain View warehouse.  I probably lost 6 dB to those huge beasts, maybe more.  They should be in a museum somewhere or bronzed.  Huge, though.  Those things were huge.

This thread got me reminiscing.


Smokey Robinson and the Miracles at Leo's Casino in Cleveland back in 64' or 65' - $2.00 to get in.

Joe Walsh and the James Gang at the Kent State University student Union back in 1968 or 1969 - free concert.

Gordon Lightfoot acoustical concert @ Cleveland's Music Hall - early 70's

Linda Ronstadt - torch music era.  1974 - Cleveland.

Ton Petty & The Heartbreakers in their prime @ Cincinnati's Riverbend late 80's.

Bob Dylan - vocally well past his prime but the best live band I've ever heard - Tupelo, MS convention center about 7 years ago.

Ralph all rebroadcasted over AM radio

I saw Roger Waters do the Wall on October 24th at the Palace. Two tickets for just under 500.00 and 60.00 a piece for shirts. But it was a great show and it was worth the money. On Thanksgiving Day I went to go watch the Lions loose for 98.00 dollars a ticket and $ 30.00 parking. At least Kid Rock was good.

73 N8QPC

The best live band I ever heard - The Eagles. 8)

Mike

Ticket prices for the shows have really went out of sight in the past 5-10 years. First time I saw Van Halen in '81, my ticket was $9.50 and the tee shirt about $8. I did break down and see them on their last "reunion" tour and the tickets were round $90 each, but it was pretty good. I had told my friends back in the late '80's that if they ever got back together with DLR that there would be no way I'd miss it. When the tour was announced, there were people I hadn't seen in nearly 20 years coming up to me and asking, "So you ARE going, right?". I had to save face.

I think the small venues/bars have some of the best shows. Here locally in the clubs over the years, I've seen Blackfoot, Pat Travers, and Ace Frehley; all really good. One of the best was Motorhead back in '94 at Ziggy's.

Not too many great old bands left around for a SB halftime guess ... maybe Grand Funk? Never got to see them live.

Phil

I would have to say the Eagles are my #1 choice, I seen them in 1980 during there Long Run Tour and again in 2008.
My #2 choice would be Rush, something about three guys that make so much music and sound like 6 people playing.

Richard

Wanna do 80s?

Areosmith, Queen, Bruce Springsteen, Boston, Styx, Foreigner, Bob Seger, Kiss, Journey, Toto, Kansas, Heart, REO Speedwagon, Asia, Peter Frampton, Def Leppard, Kansas, Boston, BTO, Led Zeppelin, Blue Oyster Cult, Cheap Trick, Pat Benetar, Heart, Foreigner,  Lynard Skynard, Joe Walsh, Grateful Dead and Genesis. Some of my faves.

Saw the Doors at Chicago Stadium, old home of the Blackhawks. Morrison was so totally smashed drunk that he was hanging on to the mic stand just to stand up.

Saw Hendrix in a small Chicago venue, the Electric Theater. Listened to an 8-track of Electric Ladyland on the way there. Pulled over and frisked by Chicago Cops, then let go- LOL.  Jerks. The dumped the ashtray of our '66 Corvair on the floor to check out the butts. What I remember most was the glow from the backside his bank of Marshall amps. The screens of those 6L6GCs and 8550s were flashing yellow. I should have snagged the scorched guitar he set on fire at the end.

John Prine and Steve Goodman in a small Chicago bar where they passed the hat to pay them. (You woulda have to be a Cubs fan to be there). A musician friend told me that I absolutely had to see these guys.

Shit. I'm getting old. Thank God I still work in FM radio to preserve my sanity.

I saw one of the last Dead concerts in Charlotte, NC. Have a good friend who played in a band with Mickey Hart  before he joined the Dead. I spent the intermission in Mickey Harts dressing room. Each band member had a private dressing room. Garcia died a week or so later.

Have built a couple of amplifiers for Joe Walsh - he emailed me out of the blue - a real nice guy. I still have his cell phone number.

One of the best concerts that I remember was the Eagles in the mid 70s. Also the Stones in the early 70s.

The po-jama people are boring me to pieces.
I feel like I am wasting my time.
They all got flannel up an down 'em,
a little trap door back around 'em,
and some cozy little footies on their mind.

Frank Zappa, quite a genius of music.

They gave a free live daytime outdoor concert in Nashville one summer in the early 70's. Some kind of municipal or charitable event I think.  It was a cool occasion to hang out, but I wasn't impressed with their performance.  Sounded more like background music.  Nothing to compare to their recorded stuff. Since it was a free gig, they probably weren't paid a lot of bux by whoever sponsored it and maybe didn't make any effort to be at their best.

"Back in 1972 I was at summer camp in Syracuse Indiana with John Mellencamp"

You ought to make a movie  and write a book about that trip.

John Mellencamp has a badass band himself and also does a great show.

The Marshall Tucker band from here in Spartanburg did some good shows. Many of them are dead now and they are all about my age (59). Two accidents and cancer.  Paul Riddle, the drummer is a good friend.

I saw their last concert together here in Spartanburg back around 1982 - It was a really good show. It was the last time the original band members played together (minus Tommy Cauldwel who was killed around 1975 in an auto accident).

Danny Gatton, any number of times I saw him at clubs in DC - 1000 times better than the big name, hyped-up corporate rock bands that pass/passed for music.

The best live show I ever been to had to be the night Peter Frampton played at the Scranton CYC. He went 2½ hours without a break. He stopped for about 5 minutes and did another 45 minute encore! Nothing fancy, no laser show, just him and his band. This is when he was at the height of his career. Damn good show! I bet he would have been awesome with Humble Pie.

I enjoyed Carlos Santana 5 years in a row in the early 90s... that was before his big "Supernatural" tour where he teamed up with all the youngsters.  An especially memorable show was when Jeff Beck opened the show.

I was able to experience the Dead in 1993 and the show was actually pretty good, Sting opened up for them.  What really made the Dead was the atmosphere and crowd.  I was about to turn 3 years old when Woodstock occured.  The Dead seemed to capture the spirit of the psychedelic '60s in some strange bubble that they moved around with them as they toured.  Funny thing is I didn't especially care for their brand of eclectic americana musical influences until I actually saw them.  The enthusiam of their Deadheads dancing and smiling and flashing good will surely helped influence my conversion.

Still, I think Carlos Santana's guitar playing was the best that I've ever heard live.

AHHHHHHHH Boston???? I know bubblegum music

Fred

Another Master of the Telecaster: Roy Buchanan.
Saw him a few times in the early 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDOIL5OqvYs&playnext=1&list=PLEBDE980727DD5C93&index=2

Did they have that monster sound system for the FREEBIE, Don?
FRED

You're supposed to drink the Kool-Aid Brian.  That's the key!

Quite a contradiction - great but not exciting. What would they be if they were exciting. Intergalactic?

Did you ever see them live?

They were a Jam band and a damn good one. I don't think they ever had a top ten hit. That isn't what the Dead was all about.

Phish was the same type band.

Strange thing about the Grateful Dead...

One either "gets it" or doesn't.  Obviously Brian just never "got it".  It's not his fault.

John said:

Ahhhh, he just didn't drop enough window pane!  :o

How about Mott the Hoople & Ian Hunter, They opened up for Heart at Cobo Hall in Detroit. I left when Heart came out.

N8QPC

The stones did a half time show a few years ago. They really sucked
I would love to see heart live.

Detroit47 said:
Damn straight! Especially if Mick Ralphs was playing with them. I saw Heart out at in CA, with Ozzie, Tommy Tutone and Journey at the Candlestick!

Love the Dead but was never big on the scene.   I only attended a single show and thought it was poser central with every meathead and yuppi running around in tie dye.  I beg to differ on the music however.   Some of my favorite music comes from Archive.org and the live dead shows are absolute gems.   Phil Lesh's bass-lines are not your standard fare but complex counter-melodies that test your reaction to a less predictable world. . .pretty interesting and hard to pull off.   Jerry Garcia's leads, while not always the most technically proficient (but sometimes extremely so), are mind-searing in their intuitive improvisation.  Using two drummers makes the rhythm hard to duplicate.   I suspect that some of the people that don't like the band don't like the style of music which is a bit off the main road.  The genre blends jazz, traditional old timey themes, poetry and rock and roll.   It's a lot of things but its not background music.  Maybe it's not for everybody but separate the music from the side show and in my mind its relevant.  The side show that developed around the music is as culturally relevant as Woodstock . . .just not my cup of tea.

By the way, the Stone's must have thought something about Black Eyed Pea's to have them kick off the tour in Boston back in 2005.  

Ed, you know it's not music unless the performers are dressed in spandex and the song is no more than three minutes and twenty seconds.

That would be Fergie of the Black Eyed Peas and that spandex is filled out silly . . .yah mon.

S,

I prefer to feel free.


klc

This may be the hippest solo singer on the planet - Listen to him in this order:


Original 35 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S8OsJOP4Bw


Mixed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ78IlJs5JQ&feature=related


and 35 years later:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2X_AvaGU6s&feature=related


Who could have a bad day after watching these?  ;D ;D

T