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Title: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: WA1GFZ on October 02, 2010, 04:28:08 PM
I can't seem to be able to reply to Todd's story. Todd I have used teflon tubing over the threaded rod as additional insulation and voltage break down on that type feed through. You can go down a size on the rod to be able to add more insulation. That thin layer of ceramic is is not much for a 5KV peak modulation voltage. I would also make sure the hole in the chassis has no sharp edges.


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: WA1HZK on October 06, 2010, 10:02:19 PM
For what it's worth I destroyed several of those during the 833 rig construction. They don't actually do high RF volts too well. I ended up punching a larger hole in the chassis and mounting a square of plexiglass which I drilled to mate the insulator ceramic hardware. Problem solved.
Keith


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: WA1GFZ on October 07, 2010, 10:44:01 AM
Art Collins would never approve that good idea and is flipping in his grave at the thought.


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: KM1H on October 07, 2010, 11:10:35 AM
An exposed ceramic HV feedthru was the accepted method even in QST before hams no longer were required to take responsibility for their actions.

My method as a 17 year old was to run 2500V using a sawed off piece of a bicycle handgrip stuffed thru a hole in the chassis in the rear and top using some #20 or so insulated wire going thru insulated washers glued into the grips. Im still here to talk about it ;D


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: K1JJ on October 07, 2010, 11:36:35 AM
heheheh...  nice!


My first homebrew project at 13 years old was to "try" to build that 200w 811A linear amp in the 1964 handbook. Wow, it said 200 watts!

I took the metal box shell of my Gilbert chemistry set and drew out the single socket hole. I just guessed at the socket size. I didn't have a drill or punch, so with a hammer and nail I proceeded to hammer out the large hole. The chemistry set collapsed and that was the end of my first project.

JSing has never been more refined than on that day.

T




Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: KE6DF on October 07, 2010, 11:54:07 AM
Another solution would be to use a larger ceramic feed through.

Here are some:

http://www.daburn.com/10-58ceramicfeed-thruinsulators.aspx

Note the one with a 1 1/4 " mounting hole.

Surely that thick a ceramic layer would handle some serious HV.


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: W2VW on October 07, 2010, 12:34:24 PM
RTV silicone.
Give at least a full 24 hours to cure.


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: WA1GFZ on October 07, 2010, 04:11:10 PM
Hey Tom that was also my first Linear also but I bought a cabinet at Hatry's.
Got plenty of advice from Corky and Ward. Worked a lot of DX with it.
Later I added a second tube in parallel. Then I was banished to the basement because my shack in the bedroom was right under the TV antenna and Dad was not happy that I could take out the TV and break connections on the phone.


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: W7SOE on October 08, 2010, 01:03:08 PM
Another solution would be to use a larger ceramic feed through.

Here are some:

http://www.daburn.com/10-58ceramicfeed-thruinsulators.aspx

Note the one with a 1 1/4 " mounting hole.

Surely that thick a ceramic layer would handle some serious HV.

I have been looking for HV feedthrough connectors and these would work.  The Millen ones are too expensive.

That place has a great selection but you have to buy 25.  :-(

Anyone know of a place to buy the "beehive" type feed-through connectors?

Thanks

Rich


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: Ed/KB1HYS on October 08, 2010, 03:20:51 PM
Nice products at that Daburn site.  Seems to be a wholesale outlet though. Too bad, those porcelin insulators looked mighty nice.


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: W7SOE on October 08, 2010, 05:07:10 PM
Nice products at that Daburn site.  Seems to be a wholesale outlet though. Too bad, those porcelin insulators looked mighty nice.

OK, who wants to go in on some beehive insulators?

Rich


Title: Re: High voltage feed through insulators
Post by: KM1H on October 08, 2010, 08:40:46 PM
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