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Title: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 06, 2009, 12:51:03 AM
How about a couple 8 land amers step up to the plate and buy this HB rig? Whomever his guys uncle was, he's looking down on you beggin you to save his rig.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320337829813 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320337829813)




Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Ed/KB1HYS on February 06, 2009, 08:38:28 AM
I WISH that was within driving distance....



Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 06, 2009, 04:53:53 PM
if I was well I would go up and get it. I went down to TN years ago to rescue a HB rig made by W4DEK in my little pick up truck. Rig now sits in Slab's Basement, safe and warm, and I make goo goo eyes at it everytime I go there.  ;D  Got to visit Don KYV which was awesome.

I wish I had my HB rig back.  :-\  I should ask the guy ifn he'll sell it back to me. I dont think he's ever used it. Sent me a picture some years back.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: W8EJO on February 06, 2009, 05:49:12 PM
Derb

I could maybe deliver it to you April 9 on my way to DC if you bid & win. I have a Ford F250 & it should fit.

Terry
W8EJO


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Blaine N1GTU on February 06, 2009, 05:56:32 PM
thats gotta be the nastiest looking heap in a while :o
some of the inside parts look usable though, good xformers
could strip it down and make something nice with it


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: W2PFY on February 06, 2009, 09:29:32 PM
Oh, Blaine, I just cannot figure out why you can't see the potential of a resurrection
Of a old buzzard rig that was the pride and joy of it's original owner? Well I suppose you would have to use your way back machine to appreciate it.  I must be at age 67 suffering the generation gap  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 06, 2009, 10:33:32 PM
I would save it mostly as is - and restore whats needed to be restored. If'n the OM did anything really dumb or ham handed I'll fix that.

Terry, if you can do that, I'll bid on it. And I'll bring it back on air looks like a good 160 rig to me.

confirm and I'll bid on it. I'm right on the way to dc from you.  8) Treat ya to a lunch buffet at the racetrack.  8)


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Opcom on February 06, 2009, 11:27:17 PM
thats gotta be the nastiest looking heap in a while :o
some of the inside parts look usable though, good xformers
could strip it down and make something nice with it

I disagree with stripping it. That rig has some very good features such as separate high voltage supplies for modulator and RF stages and UTP wiring. A pair of 808's will make a 150-200W carrier, CCS.

If it were put back together, it would be a first class rig. It could be preserved and kept as an example of the Amateur Radio work of the day. Examples like that are being lost too frequently. The fact that this was used in an attic makes it even more interesting. It was possibly built in the attic.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: KB3DKS on February 07, 2009, 02:49:36 AM
 That rig looks way to well built to be just a "Home Brew". The Iron  appears to be entirely UTC "S" series.
 I bet dollars to donuts the entire transmitter design could be found in a UTC catalog or supplement of the period. Like Stancor, Kenyon and Thordarson with their Ham Manuals detailing rigs built exclusivly with their Iron.  UTC was premium stuff and most of the Radio Handbooks that I have seen utilized the latter three mfg. transformers.
 Hope it goes to a good home !

Bill, KB3DKS in 1 Land


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: W8EJO on February 07, 2009, 05:40:39 AM

Terry, if you can do that, I'll bid on it. And I'll bring it back on air looks like a good 160 rig to me.
confirm and I'll bid on it. I'm right on the way to dc from you.  8) Treat ya to a lunch buffet at the racetrack.  8)
\\

Derb
I'll deliver if you win the bid. I'm an hour an a half from Motown so not too far & like you say, you are on my way to DC. Keep in mind I'll be making the DC trip on April 10th so you'll have a wait.

PM me if you win.




 


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: W1UJR on February 07, 2009, 06:58:49 AM
Neat rig, appears to be missing one of the decks right above the power supply.

But certainly worth saving, if you don't have time to restore now, good future project.

I agree with Bill, looks like one of the transformer manufacturers rigs, built from kit plans.
Good way to sell xformers!

The front panel appears to be masonite, interesting choice, I have a rig here, which I picked up from Carl 1KPD, with the same type of front panel, also appears to be one of the xformer kit rigs.

(http://www.w1ujr.net/Bruce's%20Bench%202007/DSC01732_small.jpg) (http://www.w1ujr.net/Bruce's%20Bench%202007/DSC01723_small.jpg)


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: k4kyv on February 07, 2009, 12:59:33 PM
Hope you guys can save that rig.  So far, zero bids, and there was the one in MD, IIRC, that got no bids and I believe a member of this list was able to pick it up directly from the owner after the auction closed.

Masonite rack panels were a standard item back in the 30's and perhaps  late 40's.  A Depression-era alternative to a real metal panel I suppose.

Last time I  checked, you could still buy tempered Masonite at the big box building supply stores, so it should be easy to roll you own for an authentic restoration.

What I find most neat is those solid sheets of bakelite that were used for panels in the 20's and early 30's.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: w1vtp on February 07, 2009, 08:40:09 PM
That black crinkle is such a work of art!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 08, 2009, 12:19:52 AM
the UTC "special" series were the low cost ham grade line of units - having said that there's nothing wrong with them,
but they dont pass muster with the VM series or the LS series. They were (and are) low cost units for hams.

I rebuilt the S22 mod transformer in the W4DEK rig, and the subwiring/terminal arrangement is subject to dry rot with
insulation troubles below the outside terminal board as a result.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Opcom on February 08, 2009, 12:59:00 AM
Neat rig, appears to be missing one of the decks right above the power supply.


speech amp?  It might be able to be duplicated more or less, if the right style of vintage parts could be found.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Ed/KB1HYS on February 08, 2009, 08:41:58 AM
There's one bid now.

The fellow has included a link to AMfone in his description...


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 08, 2009, 09:17:22 AM
thats not me. I just hope whomever gets it restores it and puts it back on the air.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: k4kyv on February 08, 2009, 03:42:16 PM
the UTC "special" series were the low cost ham grade line of units - having said that there's nothing wrong with them, but they dont pass muster with the VM series or the LS series. They were (and are) low cost units for hams.

About the same quality as the Thordarson, Stancor and other "ham radio" quality transformers.

The early S-series transformers were not even potted in tar, but dry-mounted inside a hollow case with ventilation louvres on the sides.  These were basically open-frame transformers with a protective metal shroud.

Their power, voltage and current ratings were for intermittent service, like the ICAS ratings for tubes, not for continuous duty like the CCS ratings for tubes.  This is made clear in the UTC catalogues and literature of the era.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 09, 2009, 09:35:32 PM
well, I'm out. logistics and price. I hope whomever gets it will restore it and make it even better, most importantly, put it back on the air.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Steve - WB3HUZ on February 10, 2009, 08:53:32 AM
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The early S-series transformers were not even potted in tar, but dry-mounted inside a hollow case with ventilation louvres on the sides.  These were basically open-frame transformers with a protective metal shroud.

They sure are cooling looking. It would be worth getting the rig just for those transformers.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: k4kyv on February 10, 2009, 12:51:20 PM
well, I'm out. logistics and price. I hope whomever gets it will restore it and make it even better, most importantly, put it back on the air.

So far, after all those bids, it's only up $16 from starting bid.  But look out the last two minutes.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Opcom on February 10, 2009, 07:28:56 PM
I saved all the hi-rez images for hysterical reasons. some 1600x1200, etc


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on February 10, 2009, 08:24:30 PM
well, I'm out. logistics and price. I hope whomever gets it will restore it and make it even better, most importantly, put it back on the air.

So far, after all those bids, it's only up $16 from starting bid.  But look out the last two minutes.

Bidding like this makes me yawn. Took the second bidder six tries (at $2 a bid (???)) to get over the first bidder. The serious players, if there are any, will probably come in at the eleventh hour in 2 1/2 days from now and blow these 3 current bidders away.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 11, 2009, 12:55:36 AM
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I saved all the hi-rez images for hysterical reasons. some 1600x1200, etc

yeah, I saved all the big pix too.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: W2PFY on February 13, 2009, 02:02:19 PM
Well it sold. I wonder who got lucky?  I hope it went to a ham rather that a parterouter.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 13, 2009, 05:47:47 PM
for 206 bucks I'm thinking it wasn't a am'er - hope I am wrong.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: k4kyv on February 13, 2009, 07:29:58 PM
Read about these 8 gangstas. (http://www.novareinna.com/festive/massacre.html) They really did get torn apart!  Seven of them anyway.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: Mike/W8BAC on February 13, 2009, 07:50:14 PM
That's 9 land Don.


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: W2PFY on February 13, 2009, 09:19:48 PM
I thought you were going to buy it Derb? 


Title: Re: Yo, the 8 gangsters - dont let this get scrapped or torn apart.
Post by: N3DRB The Derb on February 14, 2009, 02:09:51 AM
cant afford that price.  :-[
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