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Non-invasive Targeted Radio frequency Cancer Treatment
Destroying Cancer Cells with Radio Waves

http://www.kanziuscancerresearch.org/

Sounds like this guy is on to something.

Let's all pray for continued success.

Where do I sign up? My next MRI will be early Sept. Nobody knows what's going on in there at the moment.

Yup
I think this was from a fellow Ham op (QST article a few months ago)who developed a medical device using an rf amplifier producing about 1500 watts outside the 20M band. The implants would be in the cancer cells and would self resonate to the RF excitation from the 'maul' and would burn and destroy the cancerous growth without surgery or the dreaded CHEMO.
I'm in the same boat, DERB............THEY found something in a lymphnode that was "prominent(?)" and now another CT scan next month. Seems like once you got it, you're never free of IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phred

Derb, Chuck/K1KW mentioned something about this back when you first announced your condition a coupla years back. Drop him a PM, he can give you some good info.

Morning all..saw the post..checked it out..thank God they keep trying new stuff..thought in my lifetime that would be over and done with..they found a cure..
         For what it's worth Fred and Derb..been there..done that in '99..thought they had it all..lymph node showed more..endured 6 months of "battery acid"..5 more ops later..Doc pats me on head and says consider yourself a survivor for the time being..Fred's right..once you got it..9years now..keep a positive outlook guys..thank God for the grandkids( they keep coming!! )..always loved anything humerous..comedy shows..movies and the like..had to learn to laugh and smile more..hmmmn maybe that's why i sometimes check what's happening on the Zed forum..plenty of bellylaffs there!!
                     73 gone to fire up rig for any possible 10mtr AM..de DAVE

well, I am going on medicare Sept 1st parts AB & D, so I'll finally get some relief. I had to go 5 months with no health insurance. The drug costs alone have killed our finances and ruined my credit. I'm thousands in the hole to credit card companies.

In the meantime, the CIA can airlift briefcases stuffed with $100 bills over to Iraq and Afghanistan to pay off militias and criminals.

Anyone else see anything wrong with this?  >:(

Only in America...

If the tax $$$ is spent to help Iraqis in Iraq, it's nation building.  A good thing.

If the tax $$$ is spent to help Americans in the USA, it's socialism.  A bad thing.

This is a very old idea now. Dates from the late 30's early 40's iirc.

Perhaps the guy who was one of the first on this was Rife, iirc.
He also claimed to have made a microscope that was able to see below the Fraunhower (sp?) limit... that is a questionable claim as well. I dug out the patent. Interesting.

But IF there was a self resonant frequency for cells and cancer cells in particular, one could blast them with RF.

Imho, it is more likely that the frequencies that would be useful for this may be ultra high GHz, maybe near X-ray. One would likely have to target very small features that are unique to cancer cells.

Rife and others have hypothesized that "cancer" is caused by a virus or virus like pathogen. Since that has yet to be found, it makes it hard to treat. It may turn out that there is a viral component that is merely opportunistic, taking advantage of a "home" where a cell has accidentally gone wacky... but that's just my personal feel, nothing more.

Anyhow the idea of blasting it with RF is now quite a bit more than a half century old.
Making it work is another matter...

                       _-_-bear

It would take pages to get into it,  but what you want is a highly modified Canadain system.  You don't want what we have now, as it is  faulty.  Too much rationing of services, facilities and expertise.   And Michael Moore knows nothing about our system, trust me!!!  ::)

What you want is a multi-payer system.  Let the government fund your health care, but allow  private health care too. Competion is always good. 

We have a single payer system,  totally government funded.  They do a reasonable job,  but there are serious faults in our system.     Doctor's earnings are capped at  maximum hours.  Once they have so many hours booked per week, they can no longer charge the government.   The patient is not used to paying...  so they balk at paying cash.  That's rare, but it happens.

MRI machines:  only so many to go around. Costs money, and what with government waste and inneficiencies...  only so many to go around. That's why  many private MRI clinics are springing up.  Cash or credit cards please!

When the government runs anything, inefficiencies and waste  will occur.   The health care burocracy is the largest sector in the provincial governments.  Oh yeah, the health care system is provincial, not federal.  You get a provincial health card.   What is paid for differs from province to province.  In Ontario, prescriptions are not paid for. Costs me over $400. per month for my medications.   Eye exams not covered in Ontario either.   Some provinces wll not pay for patients from other provinces.   Alberta refuses patients with Quebec cards because Quebec funds so poorly. 

Sometimes  health budgets are simply not enough to cover all facilities; some hospitals go begging.

Our system isn't all rosey.  Michael Moore is wrong.

I understand that's essentially what they have in Japan, Netherlands, France, Germany and Switzerland . None of them are perfect.  There was an interesting documentary on the subject a couple of months ago, which can be viewed online at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/

It shouldn't require a team of rocket scientists to study the different systems in various countries and provinces, including USA, observe the strong and weak points of each, and put together something that would work fairly well for everyone without exorbitant costs. One essential element would have to be safeguards against fraud.

An example of waste and fraud in our Medicare system for the elderly:  My cousin's mother just died and they auctioned off her belongings.  One of the items was a motorised wheel chair.  I think it went for $100.  It was provided to her by Medicare at no cost, but the receipt showed that Medicare paid the vendor something like $3000 for it. 

After she died, my cousin tried to get Medicare to take it back.  Her mother had never used it even once, so it was still brand new.  They advised her that there was no mechanism in place for returning "used medical equipment", just to let it go as part of her estate.  My cousin told me she could have ordered an identical chair directly from the same vendor and paid cash for it without Medicare involvement, and it would have cost about $900.

ouch who watches PBS   (propaganda broadcasting system)

don you gotta remember that the federal gov according to the constitution is charged with the duty of protecting the nation from foreign or domestic threats.  thats it.... Nowhere in there does it say anything about entitlement programs.  and yes it would be socialism

example
if bill gates currenly gets health care on a 1-10 scale of a 10 you get it on a seven. the derb gets it on a 3.  now the goverment steps in and there is still the same amount of care to be had in the country but in order to be fair uncle sam redistributes the services equaly.. we all end up with helth care qaulity of 3.3

by the way most of the countrys listed are also paying $8-$12 for a gallon of gas.  Pssst they pay the same price we do for a barrell of crude.

socialism is expensive not to mention all of the countrys listed below have all but bankrupted their healthcare systems and their docs are fleeing to the us

As if the "regular" channels weren't laden with propaganda.

Maybe you don't mind spending $100/month to get 100 cable channels and can find something worth your time.  I just get bare bones basic cable ($2/month extra added to my high speed internet bill).  It carries a half dozen or so extra channels that you can't get over the air with an antenna, and they are not any better.

PBS is the ONLY channel I can get here that carries anything worth watching.  The stuff on the network channels is pure mind-rot garbage, interrupted with commercials every 5 minutes.  My time is too valuable to me for that kind of rubbish.

Not that PBS is commercial-free. If you have noticed lately, the underwriter announcements have gradually evolved into commercials for their corporate sponsors.  But at  least they only run between programs.

The day they start to interrupt their programs with commercials and announcements is the day I'll stop watching PBS too.

whats bad is paying a "socialist" tax rate ( ours is right now 48% averaged over all states and income levels) and not getting any of the benefits. If we paid 12% flat tax, then I might get it. but we have the worst of everything.

We ALL pay big bucks, those who have no insurance but must have expensive drugs to stay alive ( that would be me ) bankrupt ourselves, don't have coverage even though we pay the same tax rates as those that do,  and by the time we have imploded all our savings and have no money left, we get Medicare. It's nutz.

I worked full time for 27 years and paid into Social Security Disability and Medicare over that time.  If it were not for both those socialistic government programs, I would be dead.

I have come to believe that a nations money spent on it's people to alleviate human suffering, disease, and allow the terminally ill to die with dignity beats spending it's money on bombs, guns, armies, and invading other nations based on lies and false pretenses.

If we' re going to be taxed to the hilt no matter what, then lets have a national dialogue about why and who is gotten he benefits. I'm telling you, it's not me.

.......Guess "Guns & Roses" said it best (Feed the rich and bury the poor)  The mindset of the Global Elite. Too bad they'll never know what it means to be human.............OOPPS - Guess I'm being political. JIM

just get the gov out of the way and let the free market take over.  its all the regulation, taxes and never fear we can fix it crap that has bankrupted this country.

in 1932 an appendectomy (god bless spell check) and a 7 day hospitol stay cost about $32.  today its over $25000 even adjusted for inflation we are still paying for all of the lawsuits.  It makes me scream when i hear someone cheer when a drug company gets sued for 5 billion dollars because a few hundred people had a reaction to a med and those same people scream about their prescription drugs costing $1000 a month.  who do they think pays for the lawsuit.  Just like the morons that cheer when a politician says they will increase taxes on the rich.  Dont the lemings understand that if gm or ford has to pay more in taxes that it cost more to make the car and that they have to charge more to stay in business.  There is no such thing as a progressive tax.. its all a shell game that only the retarded support.

and while im on it as far as minimum wage and the fair pay.  if the gov would just get out of the way we would all be making more money.  In the state of MD for me to pay one of my employees $10 an hour it costs me  21.50 and then the emplyoee pays taxes on his share. almost 130% taxed.  why do you think there are so many  border blasters with jobs.  Next time the local plumbing co charges you $90 an hour realize that if the tech gets $30 after taxes and expenses the company gets about $15 

plumbers and electricians in this area now get 125-150 an hour

Life would be great, wouldn't it?  If you want to read all about that utopia, just go to your local library and check out any one of those Charles Dickens novels that describe life in 19th century London.


I think I'd take to-day's medical technology over that of 1932, when the number of deaths from even minor surgery would be unacceptable by present day standards, and the average human life expectancy in the US was 63.5 years.  But things got worse as time went on.  By 1936 average life expectancy had dipped to 60.6 years.  It had hit a low of 47 years for black males.

Statistically speaking, if I had lived during the era when some of my most beloved radio equipment was made, I would already be dead by now.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/nvsr52_14t12.pdf
Warning: This data comes from the National Vital Statistics Reports, originating  from a government agency, therefore bound to be socialist propaganda.


About double the present-day cost in those "socialist" countries that have some variety of national health insurance.

All you people  ranting about "free markets" in health care, must have well-paying jobs, and health insurance.

What about those without health insurance?  What shall they do?   ("Go to a County Hospital, they'll take care of you...") Yeah, sure.   Those county hospitals are like the hospitals in Quebec - more like a third-world African village clinic,  over crowded with sick people,  vomit and feces on the floor, and an 8-hour wait.   Very nice.   (I'm serious - this is what the waiting rooms in any Quebec hospital is like!)   

Try: http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/
That's where I found mine.

You don't want me to pay for your car & homeowner's insurance too do you?

Think einsurance will give me a policy? not likely at any price. Maybe I should call em up an ask em what the premium would be on a 45 year male with a grade 4 glioblastoma brain tumor. Think they'd give me a policy? ::)

There should definitely be some kind of funding for folks in your situation, however, that's a long, long way from saying our tax paying citizens must pay for everyone's health care.

Let's leave the health care system alone & look for ways to fund the health care costs of those of us who, for whatever reason, are in a difficult position.

It's this idea of scrapping are whole damn system & turning into another socialized medicine craphole that I'm against. Where will the Canadians go then for their care?

BTW, I'm self employed, 61 yrs old & pay $350.00/mo for my plan which is a $7,500 deductible, major medical plan designed to take care of big problems.  I pay, out-of-pocket, most office visits, prescriptions, lab tests, chiropractors, etc. I call around to get prices for tests, office visits, dental procedures, prescriptions before I buy, just like any other consumer item. The price variances are huge & many can be negotiated down.

This idea of health insurance paying for everything from the 1st dollar is part of the problem.
   

For All
And Bear.
The reason this process, which wasn't from the 30's, has so many promises is that it's using about 1500 watts of an HF freq. Prolly around 15mhz. The reason for the lower freq is to avoid what would happen to the person getting the RF treatment from cooking their inards with your microwave freqs. The lower freq would just heat up the nano whatever they are that are injected into the patient. They attach themselves to the cancer cells or tumors and they self resonate to the HF freq and heat up and kill ONLY the cancer cells or tumor. These nano things are electron microscope size and I doubt that there was anything in the 1930's that could begin to think about anything that small. They were just discovering tubes and thought that was something.
And DERB if you could go to Sveden, they wuold probably have some breakthroughs in Cancer. Cancer research/cure in the USA is an industry that makes a lot of money. Why cure it and give us freedom from cancer????????
Fred

For the same reason "they" can now cure or control, or have eradicated, tuberculosis, polio, smallpox, rabies, bacterial infection, diabetes, blindness with corneal implants, deafness with cochlear implants, heart arrhythmia with pacemakers, etc.

In addition, there are drugs that have led to remission of various types of cancer (e.g. Gleevec/imatinib, used for treatment of GIST and chronic myeloid leukemia), gene therapy has restored the immune system in people with severe combined immunodeficiency, enzyme replacement therapy can "cure" certain enzyme deficiencies, bone marrow transplantation has cured SCID or leukemia, cisplatin for testicular cancer (ask Lance Armstrong), etc.

By the way, most of these treatments have been developed by the much maligned US health care system and evil "Big Pharma" who many want to destroy now.

and Temodar, which is prolly the only reason I'm still alive.

I just bought a copy of Charlatan by Pope Brock (http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780307339881) from Amazon.com for about half the cover price.  It arrived about 3 days later, and I find it fascinating reading. I'm now about a quarter way through the book.

It is the story of Dr. Brinkley and his infamous goat gland operations, and the radio station he set up in Kansas, later to be moved to Ciudad Acuña, Mexco, just across the border from Del Rio, TX.  It goes into quite a bit of detail about the doctor and his medical practice, as well as his radio enterprise.

It tells a lot about medical quackery in the early 20th century.  Some well respected over-the-counter products to-day, like Listerine and Ex-Lax got their start on the market as little more than snake oil.  Many aspects of commercial radio (and later TV) originated with Brinkley's enterprises.

The book, written in the style of a novel, not a dry presentation of facts and statistics, keeps your attention.  I highly recommend it for "dead band" reading.

This is not to suggest that the subject RF cancer treatment is quackery. OTOH, much of the "legitimate" cancer research over the past 100 years by major reputable institutions at great expense, has ended up with no better results than Brinkley's gland transplantations.

Cancer is Smart (http://wildwooddiva.blogspot.com/2008/05/where-do-i-go-from-here.html)

John Kanzius is not the first person to claim that cancer can be cured with RF.

In 1934, Royal Raymond Rife and his associates opened two small clinics in California and allegedly cured sixteen cases of cancer. Sworn affidavits and medical experts testified to the complete remission of "hopeless" cases within four to six weeks.

Rife was an optical engineer and technician of great skill. His first success was the building or the Universal Microscope in the late 1920s. With it he was able to view the living cancer virus-a feat our modern high-powered electron microscopes still cannot do (the microscope's electron beams kill the virus).  Although the biologists of his day were impressed with the power of this invention both the medical community and the optical physicists would have little to do with Rife. There were no clearly demonstratable principles of physics to explain how the Universal Microscope worked, and that was enough reason for them to reject Rife's ideas.

Using the Universal Microscope he claimed to observe cancer viruses as they changed their size and form. He discovered, that exposing a virus to certain frequencies of radio waves killed it quickly. Years or experimentation led to Rife's invention of the Frequency Instrument, a device that produced the exact radio frequencies needed to destroy various viruses.

Treatments lasted only three minutes. The person would wait three days before another exposure giving the lymph system time to cleanse the dead virus from their bodies. Unlike the chemotherapy treatments currently in use, Rife's therapy was 100 percent effective and engendered no adverse symptoms.

But the American Medical Association opposed the use of this supposedly incredible device. Physicians who defied this official stance and continued to use the Frequency Instrument had their licenses to practice medicine revoked. Individuals known to make use of the Universal Microscope are said to have had their equipment confiscated or destroyed.

More on Royal Raymond Rife (http://www.rense.com/general19/enemy.htm)

As head of the AMA (and editor of the Journal of the American Medical Association from 1924-1949), Dr. Morris Fishbein decided which drugs could be sold to the public.  According to his critics, this was based only how much advertising money he could extort from drug manufacturers, whom he required to place expensive ads in the JAMA. His critics claimed there were no drug-testing agencies, only Fishbein, and that it was irrelevant if the drugs worked.

Perhaps Fishbein's best known campaign was against the infamous Dr. John R. Brinkley, who claimed to be able to cure male impotence, enlarged prostates and a host of other ailments by transplanting "goat glands" - pieces of goat testicles - into the human scrotum.  He built a powerful radio station in Kansas and defied the AMA's ban on advertising by doctors, peddling his quack cures over the airwaves.  He practically single-handedly invented the concept of commercial radio advertising.  Many of his patients reported satisfaction with their gland transplants, but many others are said to have died, frequently from tetanus and other infections. 

The destruction of Dr. Brinkley became a personal vandetta of Morris Fishbein. When the AMA managed to get Brinkley's medical licence pulled, and convinced the Federal Radio Commission (the predecessor of the FCC) to pull his broadcasting licence in the early 1930's, he set up shop in Del Rio, Texas and built a megawatt AM transmitter just across the border in Villa Acuña, Mexico.  Thus station XER, the first of the Border Blasters was born.

Was Rife's cancer cure with the Frequency Instrument legitimate, or was it as much a scam and quackery as Dr. Brinkley's goat gland transplantation?

Morris Fishbein - AMA Enemy of American Health? (http://www.rense.com/general19/enemy.htm)

For more on this fascinating story, launch a Google search on Royal Raymond Rife.

More on Wave Therapy (http://www.icehouse.net/john34/rife.html)

Don,

... and anyone else... dig out a copy of his patent on his microscope, Rife that is...
There are more pictures of the incomplete instrument on line, but I poked around a few years back and found a picture of the complete unit.

As I said it is unclear to me that it achieves its stated objective, to see below the Fraunhauer limit using light in the optical spectrum. You're generally limited in terms of size of the object you can see/magnification by the relationship related to wavelength and constructive/destructive interference. His microscope design claims to circumvent the destructive interference that normally sets the limit.

Being not sophisticated in optics and light physics I can't tell by inspection if his claim has any merit at all - but from what little I know, it does seem doubtful.

               _-_-bear

This Kanzius story ran on 60 minutes this past Spring, recently updated.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/10/60minutes/printable4006951.shtml

That is an awesome story. Like the rest of us I hope it works.

Mike

about this Rife business, a guy approached me a couple years ago wanting to build a variable frequency RF generator big enough to run a large Rife tube. He was under contract by a doctor and insisted that because rife's machine had only a few controls, his also should have but a few, so the doctor could operate it. I told him to use a cheap solid state amplifier (500W CB linear for instance), but he insisted on tubes and a bandwidth of some 100KC to 30MHz because he did not know the spectrum of RF necessary for this contraption. Needless to say the project did not go far with the meager funding available for parts and he was not interested in paying me in $ anyway. A decent research budget would have taken into acount a product from Amplifier Research or equivalent.. multi-$K. I helped on paper for a while, but the novelty wore off as I had other things to do and he would not listen to electronics advice. I don't know what happened to him, but I ended up with a little plate transformer with dual 120V windings and dual 1KV 500mA windings. Still sitting on a shelf..

He might have got greater resolution using blue light right at the fringe of visibility and ultraviolet.  Like the laser discs that use blue lasers instead of the traditional red to allow for more data storage in a given amount of space.

But then maybe he used oxygen-free quartz lenses in his optics to give more tessitura to the magnified images. ;D ;D

Yep,
It appears Kamzius is indeed a fellow ham. 

http://www.qrz.com/callsign/K3TUP

hey don ... is mo tessitura like mo testosterone (sp?) ...beefus