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Title: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: W3RSW on July 16, 2008, 04:30:10 PM
Isn't this a cool tube or what?
Trade in your ol' 813's.
Should be good for easy 200 watts dissapation in AM service.

http://qro-parts.com/product_info.php?products_id=82 (http://qro-parts.com/product_info.php?products_id=82)

Wonder how long they'll be available.  The claimed service life is phenominal.


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: W1AEX on July 16, 2008, 04:45:08 PM
Heh, I like how it has a clamp around it so that it can't leap out of its socket.

Rob W1AEX


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: W3RSW on July 16, 2008, 05:44:22 PM
yeah, when your flyin' a Mig 29 you need all the 'g' proofing you can get ;D


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: k4kyv on July 17, 2008, 12:52:18 AM
Looks like a Russian version of the old Western Electric 701-A tetrode.  It was sort of a 304TL with a screen grid.

I wonder if that company will still be around in 25 years to make good their guarantee.

It might be a good tube.


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: W3RSW on July 17, 2008, 03:18:47 PM
When I first saw it I thought it was a compactron! - until I saw the scale.  Jeeze, it's a fat bottle, over 3" dia. and over 5" long.  At $110 each I'm tempted to buy a couple.  - Maybe a pair modulated by a pair and would you get a load of those internal plate 'fins?'  From the broken Eng. literature I guess those internal fins are supposed to 'channel' electrons.  Sort of like Eimac 8877's focused beams where the grid is aligned precisely but at the plate?

Also their 40uf/5kv cap. looks very stout.


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: k4kyv on July 17, 2008, 10:00:50 PM
I'd say the external fins on the plate are for heat dissipation purposes.  Like the heat radiating fins on the older versions of Eimac triodes (304TL, 100TH, 250TH, 450TL, etc.)


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: W3RSW on July 17, 2008, 10:31:13 PM
oh yeah, definitely what the external fins are, but look inside the plate in the one three-quarter view if you haven't already.  You can see myriads of smaller fins pointing radially inwards from the main plate cylinder.

Almost hairy.


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: w4bfs on July 18, 2008, 07:47:45 AM
could the internal fins be some sort of secondary emission buster?


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: WBear2GCR on July 18, 2008, 07:23:22 PM
Don, don't think it's a guarantee... just typical of the tube??

My reaction to the image when I looked at it last night was that the grids are not wound like the typical tube. They look like they are formed out of a solid bit of metal... sort of like the internals of a ceramic tube.

That would account for their ability to handle the G forces.

...wonder what they did for the heater? 1/8" wide flat nichrome strips?

probably very few failures due to shipping!  ;)

I like it. Wonder how it would do slammed in place of the typical pair of 6146s?
Maybe not enough B+ to make it sing... but a candidate for modulator service??

The GU70 (was that it?) looks like an 845 on steroids...

The Ruskies make some nice toobes!

             _-_-bear


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: Opcom on July 18, 2008, 11:24:27 PM
I wonder what that socket is made of. Nice for the price. It's indirectly heated, I like that for ruggedness.


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: WBear2GCR on July 20, 2008, 06:41:15 PM


Compare - as seen on the back cover of the April 1958  QST: The RCA-7094!

Looks similar at least in concept.

500 watts CW, 1200vdc, AM phone.

               _-_-bear


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: KM1H on July 26, 2008, 07:52:48 PM
It might just retrofit into a SB-220 once the Chinese decide to stop making the 3-500.

Drop the screen from the HV (with some safety circuitry) and change the RF Power meter position to read screen current, the best way to tune a tetrode. The new filament xfmr can do double or triple duty to develop bias as well as relay voltage. The SB-220 fan will keep it happy.

With enough reserve emission it may be very linear.

Hmmmmm  ;D

Carl
KM1H


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: WBear2GCR on July 29, 2008, 06:13:04 PM
Think it wants a lower B+ than the 3-500 by quite a bit...?

        _-_-


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: KM1H on July 29, 2008, 07:35:35 PM
In a SB-220??

WHY??

Carl


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: W3RSW on July 31, 2008, 11:18:45 AM
It just dawned on me, this tube is probably rated to 50,000 ft. altitude too; should match one of my surplus transformers.  ;D

And as an additional added attraction, it looks rugged enough to make it through UPS delivery.

....now where did I put those 15E's?...   so cool, some of this old USAF stuff. Hey, probably USAAF for 15E's.

 


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: Opcom on August 02, 2008, 05:27:15 PM
you have 15E's as well? Gor any 15R's to go with them?


Title: Re: GMI 11 Russian glass transmitting tube.
Post by: W3RSW on August 03, 2008, 01:55:20 PM
no, wish I did, 
the E's are brand new/(old surplus) but way back in my career of js hamdom I wanted to see them light up so hooked up a 5v fil. xfor to them.  Glowed pretty and no wear at all what with a volt less than nominal.  But the darn red paint logos turned from bright red to tannish red.

Didn't hurt a damn thing emission wise, but oh well....
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