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This is way off topic but interesting.

We've been buying bottled Coca-Cola imported from Mexico by the case since they started selling it in Denver.

I just got off the tower and chugging a bottle right now.

The big difference is the taste. They use the old-timey Coke formula and real sugar in glass bottles, not corn sweetener. Maybe even real 'coca'..It tastes like a crisp Coke, not smarmy stuff. There's a real difference.

If it shows up in eastern stores, I recommend trying it. There is *nothing* better on a hot afternoon in the shade.

Besides, my XYL says corn sweetener is bad for you.

And it's in 99% of commercially prepared food products, even stuff that isn't supposed to be "sweet".

Bill,

I hope it starts making it east of the Mississippi.  I was in Cuba in 2000 and they get their Coca Cola from Mexico also and I had forgotten how much better the "real" stuff tastes.

It's interesting that you sometimes run into authentic original products manufactured in other countries long after they have been discontinued in US markets and  replaced with "new improved" fake versions.  I remember finding authentic Octagon had soap in Ethiopia in the 1960's, something I hadn't seen since the late 40's. I once visited a real old fashioned Woolworth's in Nairobi, complete with the gold lettering on the red sign.

Now if you could just find authentic transmitting tubes that were just as good as the US-made originals...

I just did a Google search on Mexican Coca-Cola..The American Coke bottlers aren't very happy about even the small presence of the Mexican import, but it's not illegal to import it, so there's nothing they can do about it.

The price in Denver is $20 for a case of 24 12 oz green glass bottles.

One store owner in Atlanta reported that his Mexican Coke outsells the American version by 3 to 1, even though it costs more. Coke claims there's no difference in taste between the American corn syrup and real sugar versions, but there definitely is if you do an A-B taste test. It's an entirely different kind of sweetness.

I wouldn't worry too much about the corn sweetener. It won't be around much longer anyway--It will be made into ethanol so you can burn it in your SUV. Another really bright idea.
Skip

The Dr. Pepper plant in Dublin, TX bottles the 7 oz. bottles of the drink.  Like someone said, it is more expensive but the taste is much better.  It is not widely distributed, only about a 50 mile radius of Dublin (Waco area), but sells like hotcakes.  People drive from Dallas, Austin and San Antonio to buy cases of it.

Reminds me of the New Coke vs Classic Coke controversy in the early 80's.  But I guess it is a sign of success when you get the public arguing over which one of your products is better.

Years ago when they still sold Coke in the 6 oz returnable bottles, and then later offered it in 10 oz bottles, I always could have sworn that the stuff in the smaller bottles tasted better.

Never did think it tasted as good in cans as it  did in the old indestructible glass  bottles.  I have seen people literally use those glass bottles to drive nails and they didn't break.  I'd bet they would make a good base insulator for a lightweight vertical using something like a 30 to 50 ft TV pushup mast.

To-day I rarely drink soda.  I prefer handcrafted ales from a local microbrewery.

High fructose corn syrup may be no worse than other sugars like sucrose (table sugar)...see this report: http://www.drmirkin.com/public/ezine032308.html

When first introduced in cans, the metallic taste was offset by adding sodium (read salt).  Then they introduced the plastic lined cans so they could now call it "low sodium".  Yes there is a difference between the canned Coke, Dr. Pepper, etc.  and the bottled version whether they use corn syrup or sugar.  Now as to the difference between the 6 oz. and 10 oz bottles, I am not sure, maybe perception.

Don't drink soda, pop or whatever it's called these days.  Gave it up about 13 years ago.  I was 235lbs when I quit and feeling like crap from drinking large quantities of it back then.  I''ve held 180 lbs since giving it up and changing the overall diet.  No sugar, no caffiene and I feel damn good for someone approaching 50.  Just finished doing the first lawn cut for this year.  Have an acre to cut  with a manual mower.  Takes about 2 1/2 hours to cut.  Damn that felt good.  Glad I quit that junk.

Hmmmmm,

Believe it or not, the US Coke bottlers, do (or at least did for a short time) sell the "real" old formula Coke in the US.  I was listening to Marketplace last year on the radio, while driving to work, when it was mentioned that Coke was selling the old sucrose based coke for the jewish market, during Passover.  I think they mentioned it was done, due to the fact that corn syrup based coke isn't kosher during passover, but the old (pre-1980s) sugar based Coke is.   Here's another article that was written on this:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03192007/news/regionalnews/kosher__coke_a_big_hit_regionalnews_rita_delfiner.htm

Many non-jews who have tried out the kosher Coke, have also clamored for it.  I think it's due to the fact that the sucrose, isn't so syrupy sweet, like fructose is.  Me, I prefer either RC Cola, or Pepsi One (which of course is sugar free [well, sort of - it uses Splenda, which is made from sugar]).

73,
Ellen - AF9J

Soda is nasty I'm lucky to drink a glass full in 6 months. I can't wait for it to become fuel and get all that crap out of our diet....and the pills that go with it.

the corn we grow here in USA is no good for eating, being mostly starch, with only a ittle protein in the germ. It's used to make corn sweetner and other stuff. I believe the process uses supluric acid as a first step. If we ever get into food trouble, it will be a rude awakening. eat all the corn you want and starve to death..

Around here they have been selling something called "Jolt" cola that has a slogan "real sugar and twice the caffeine".  I like the "in your face" attitude about it as it sits there on the shelf next to "diet this" or "caffeine free that".

I agree with Don in that I always thought that Coke in the original 6 .oz glass bottles tasted best. I also remember that when popped the top on one of those bottles there would be a little swirl of grey mist that would form in the neck and poof out the top.

73, Jim
WA2AJM/3

I think the Jones soda company is the only national outfit that sells cane sugar sweetened pop...

Jolt Cola with a shot of Jim Beam I  call a Transporter - " Beam me up" - but the taste of coca cola varies with the bottling plant - noticed the taste very distinct from new england to new jersey - Newark NJ must have done something with the Passaic River (post sopranos) - superior to the Philly plant
Enjoy!
Greg

I remember Jolt. It's been out for years.   I've had it once in a blue moon.  That stuff is nasty to your stomach if you drink too much of it.  BTW, a local TV station did a story about Jolt some years back.   Your basic garden variety cup of coffee, still has more caffeine than Jolt.

73,
Ellen - AF9J

Frankly I can't drink much cola or coffee anymore. It makes my heart race. I've switched to sipping bottled water and my waistline and energy level are much improved. I think it has made a difference at the dentist too.

73, Jim
WA2AJM/3

Recently I checked into the availability of glass bottles for old Coke machine usage and was told they could still be had on special order. Wonder if this is the source? Other than the occasional special promotion around Christmas or for some sporting event, the glass bottles are hard to find.

Coke blundered bigtime with the New Coke/Classic Coke debacle. No doubt related to the Pepsi Challenge of the same era. Does the change from sugar to corn syrup correlate somehow with folks preferring Pepsi?

Always thought Coca Cola had the better marketing and packaging side of things, while Pepsi wasn't as goopie tasting. RC is a lot more difficult to find these days.

Most of those old Jewish taboos (clean vs unclean, kosher vs nonkosher) that may on first sight seem silly to many of us, are based on sound hygienic principles from a perspective of the limited scientific knowledge people had back in biblical times.  Read some the formulae and details as described in Leviticus.  A kosher diet would probably be healthier than a non-kosher one, regardless of one's religious beliefs.  Moslems follow a kosher diet similar to the Jewish one.

Similarly, a diabetic diet is a very healthy one, even for non-diabetics.

I might drink one or two sodas over a 6-month period.  I can't imagine how people can stand to gulp down several 20 oz bottles of that crap every day.  When I used to teach in high school, they had soda machines all over the place, and the only products offered came in 20 oz bottles.  School administrators claimed they had no choice but to keep the soda machines because it was a necessary source of funding for extracurricular activities.  But there was a strict rule against drinking sodas in classrooms (the inevitable spills caused too much mess).  Basically the school was telling the kids to buy the stuff but not to drink it.  This resulted in as ongoing cat-and-mouse game between students and teachers in nearly every classroom.  If an administrator stepped in and caught a kid sneaking sips from a soda, even hidden well out of the sight of the instructor, it was usually the teacher who got in trouble, not the kid.

I agree that high-fructose corn syrup makes products nauseatingly sweet, while regular sugar is more palatable.  Consuming one or two beers a day has to be much healthier than consuming that same amount of soda every day.

We have a local outfit here that makes their own sodas.  By far they are the best flavorwise and probably better for you too.  I prefer them over the super power beverage makers.  Of course that's when I might have one since I stay away from that stuff.

I've always liked the little companies, the off-brand stuff. When was the last time you saw Birch Beer for sale? One of my favs as a young 'un, available in any small town general store.

My wife will pick up a 24 variety case of what essentially is homebrewed soda from the local outfit.  Me not being a soda drinker these days will take part in that libation every-once-in-a-while and will grab something from the variety pack.  Birch beer is usually my first choice and boy does it taste good.  Some of the other flavors just beat the pants off of the major labels.  This is were we get the good stuff: http://www.averysoda.com/

Anyone else ever hear of Deleware Punch?  Last I saw was in Pampa, TX some years back.  It was light, non-carbonated and just a taste of sweetner.  The brand covered many states when I was a kid in the 50s but I doubt it is still around.  Good drink that didn't pollute one's system.

I like a Good Carbonated Red Pop Once in awhile...they used make that in glass bottles years ago...Great scthuff..Cameron Coca-Cola made it... :D

This is were we get the good stuff: http://www.averysoda.com/

Check out their "Gross Flavors" link....methinks they might have been doing a joint venture with Timmy and his Slim-O-Tron.....


.....Toxic Slime - This electric blue soda with white floaty bits looks like a science experiment gone wrong.  Blue raspberry, orange and lemon are the dominant flavors in this tasty soda.......

.....Swamp Juice - This greenish-brown tonic is the most complicated formulation with over a half-dozen flavor ingredients. It has a surprisingly delicious fruity taste.....

....Dog Drool Soda - Pinkish white with lots of character, it looks like Rover's saliva glands are working overtime. This orange-lemon soda will have you drooling too!.....
 
 ....Bug Barf Soda - Something this guy’s been eating didn’t agree with him, but this greenish – yellow Kiwi/Pineapple mix is absolutely delicious. It’s sure to agree with you!....
 
 .....Kitty Piddle Soda - Oops, kitty had an accident. But the Taste of this pale yellow, Orange/Pineapple mix is no accident. Bad Kitty. Good soda!....
 
 .....Monster Mucus Soda - This deep purple potion has lots of body and is bursting with flavor. A monster combo of Strawberry and Blue Raspberry, it’s berry berry tasty!....
 

....These totally gross flavors are dedicated to the ten year old in all of us.  "They're SODAsgusting".....
 

Is Orange Crush still sold anywhere?

Got a case of Moxie a few years ago.   Not sure if it was new old stock or if they still make it.

Moxie is availble in most supermarkets in the E. Massachusetts area.

Last time I saw Crush, it was in 2L bottles only. Fanta is still available in 16/20z, Also Sunkist last I knew.

A&W still rocks....

And who forgets Fresca?  Boy does that clean the palate

I can get around here in 20 oz 6 packs.

Ellen - AF9J

Elllen- Remember Canfield's?

Hmmmm, I think so.  I think it's still available in some places around here.  I just ook a look online you can buy it from here: 

http://www.beveragesdirect.com/products/canfields/

I usually drink diet colas (I'm not much of a coffee drinker), if I want a caffeine pick-me-up.  The Canfield's Diet Chocolate Fudge soda looks delish.  But the price! 

73,
Ellen - AF9J

    My grandfather always had a thing for Coke. I remember going to town with him when I was little (early '50's) and he would always want to stop at the Gulf station and get a couple of bottles for us. They were the small glass bottles with the city and state embossed on the bottom. They were so cold that they would frost up on a hot humid summer day. He would turn the bottle up and chug the whole thing down at once finishing with a resounding BURP. I tried to do the same thing but I would have to stop about half way with tears streaming down my cheeks. Boy those Cokes were good! The taste seemed much more intense than what you get today. Pepsi in those days seemed like weak sugar water compared to the REAL THING.

    And speaking of Moxie...While stationed at Pease AFB in the late '80's, I discovered Moxie. Never had heard of it before. All the Portsmith, NH locals drank it. Tastes like nothing else, but it's good. I wonder why it doesn't go national? People would probably like a change from all the colas and lemon lime drinks.

Polar Bevereges came out with flavored seltzers - no sugar or sweeteners - just water, CO2, and flavoring. You can drink as much as you want without rotting your teeth. The best has to be Vanilla.

Another brand from my childhood was Teem, available in dark green glass bottles and from the fountain machine at the local theater. Seems to have been replaced by Sprite. XYL mentioned NEHI last night when we were discussing it, is that still around?

Moxie.....if memory serves me correctly, 'yuck'. Tasted like cough syrup or such, from a faint teenage memory. Moxie was a BIG drink nationwide back in the earlier part of the 20th century, I have a number of Moxie items in the collection from a wooden crate to early embossed bottles with labels intact. Seems to have gone the way of Beemans and Blackjack gum: available as a novelty in limited areas. Maybe I should give it another try now that I'm well beyond the sicky-sweet stage of my youth.

Yes, those little green Coke bottles from either the tall red machines (place a quarter in, open side door, remove at bottom) or the floor coolers filled with water and ice were always ice cold, and tasted far better than today's beverages. With all the hype about 'green', it amazes me that so many companies continue to use plastic bottles that seem to get thinner by the year. One of the guys stocking the stuff in a local store told me the reason they have big sales so often is to get the stuff sold before it goes bad, something about the plastic breaking down within a few weeks and contaminating the flavor. No idea...

                                             Rum and Wink

Moxie is still around, still disgusting, and probably makes a good filament battery if you sink a bar of copper and a bar of lead into it and hook wires to the bars.

Moxie is a Maine invention, as are earmuffs. They taste about the same, too.

I'd rather guzzle Nyquil (not the cherry-flavored pantywaist version, either... the original green alien bile formula); it not only tastes better, but it gives you a decent buzz.

--Thom
Killer Agony One Zipper Got Caught

Remember "Flavor Straws"? Chocolate and strawberry. They had a chemical soaked wick inside the straw that you sucked your milk through. And then there was "Fizzies"...

Looking for Moxie?

Great stuff!  It's the drink of choice for me in the carbonated category....
Which is very rare these days....

If you just NEED to find it... try here:

http://www.moxie.info/findmox.htm (http://www.moxie.info/findmox.htm)

Hi!
This stuff TRAVELS! My friend bought a case today at out Costco here in Kalispell, MONTANA  (not far from BFE) for $17.99 for 24 12oz bottles. Viva hecho en Mexico with real cane sugar!
Norm K7NCR.

Ahhh yes.... my favorite was Root Beer Fizzies straight into the mouth. Let it fizz for a while and wash it down with real root beer.

Man..... what a belch generator that was !!

Hi all:

I tried the kosher Coca-Cola and it was a little better...not enough for me to buy it.

I quit all regular and diet sodas abotu 2 months ago and have move to unsweetened tea. So far I have lost 5 pounds without trying.

HFCS to me is bad. I try hard to avoid it, but it is nearly impossible. And corn is in amost everything you eat...from steak to hamburger buns to salad dressing.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2004/02/18/FDGS24VKMH1.DTL

73,
Dan
W1DAN

Tea is a mild diuretic and, if you drink enough, you will spend more time in the bathroom.  Shedding that extra water will keep you weight down.

By taste, I 've always felt that tea is one of the main (secret) ingredients to Coke.

Tom, one would think that with modern analysis, the ingredients in Coke and Kentucky-Fried wouldn't be secret...

From the looks of the "Moxie-Boy,"  I'd guess it was targeted to guys with lipstick and eyeliner.... ;D

http://www.metrocast.net/~moxieman/MoxieBoy.GIF

Hmmm.... now THAT would make a great avatar....

I use tap water with a Brita filter. Bottled water is the Hummer of beverages. The first bottled water sold in the UK was Evian. Is it any coincidence that Evian spells Naive backwards?

Can't sit back and allow them to sap and impurify all of my precious bodily fluids.

And so the American people have voted with their wallets. Hope the American bottlers will get a clue.  :(

nope. the legal team at coke will introduce legislation into congress through one of their paid off minions,  and get all mexican coca cola bottles reclassified as illegal immigrants. Then we will have laws outlawing it, drug gangs smuggling it, shooting each other over it, and candidates fighting each other to build walls to keep the evil "good" coke out.

latest example of lying scum minion: John Edwards lying about his love affair for 2 1/2 years.

Enjoy the soda and beer while you can. The socialist enviro-police will go after the CO2 in those products next. It will start in the form of a carbon tax. But everyone will feel good because they are doing something to save the planet.

I am almost curious enough to give Moxie a try...  While searching for it I came across a site that has the hard to find groceries:  http://www.hometownfavorites.com/    A lot of things I remember from my childhood in the 60's are actually still available including candy and bubble gum cigarettes in these politically correct times.  And they do sell Moxie. 

Rodger

My buddy Carl, VA3CGM is originally from Maine. He is a Moxie-maniac!   He turned me on to the stuff. It's basically a root beer, but more like an Italian Brio-Chinotto.  It has a hint of bitterness and a long finish.  Not quite as distinctive as a real Chinotto, but close.  Best served ice-cold in a glass  with ice.

He brought me back a case of the stuff from his recent trip "home".  There are several Moxie websites too.

can't sit back and allow them to sap and impurify all of my precious bodily fluids.

hi Don .... that's a strange love of liquids there, doc .... beefus

MrMike,

But with the internet almost everything is available anywhere and everywhere (as long as you are willing to pay the price):  http://www.hometownfavorites.com/products.asp?dept=1018&pagenumber=2

Rodger

Now if only Jello would reintroduce their Lemon Chiffon pie mix.  When I was a child my mother used to make that with a thick graham cracker crust and I still have cravings for it.  The closest simulation I have found is to mix coolwhip and lemon extract into the Jello instant cheese cake mix and it is close but not quite the same.

    What I really miss are real hot dogs that go "crunch" when you bite 'em. Skinned hot dogs as opposed to skinless ones. Man they were good. These hot dogs you buy nowadays are just tube shaped baloney. >:(

Hofmann's Coneys AKA, "Snappys" is da bomb.......  and yes ya can get 'em online....


http://www.hofmannsausage.com/purchase/


klc

Steamed or off the BBQ grille?

Steamed????   


Steamed???????


BARBIE !!

And salt potatoes ar gud wit 'em


yeah, ya can cook da conies in a little bit o' water ..... it is oh tay


klc