The AM Forum

THE AM BULLETIN BOARD => The ARRL Forum => Topic started by: Pete, WA2CWA on January 02, 2006, 03:05:38 AM



Title: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on January 02, 2006, 03:05:38 AM
Novice - HF - Entry - Amateur
ARRL web site, 1/1/06

http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/features/2006/01/01/1/?nc=1


Title: Re: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: WA3VJB on January 02, 2006, 10:35:39 AM
If Sumner really "wants a Happy New Year," he and his lieutenants ought to figure out why the FCC has been sending out a "chilly reception" for the League's proposals.

His prospects look poor for a Happy New Year, if measured by Newington's likely success in Washington. In fact, Sumner's quote in the website you've linked also applies very well to the existing system of coordinating modes and activities.


Quote
It is a proven concept that served the public interest well for 40 years, and is as valid today as ever.


It is a system the group in Newington wishes to abandon.


Title: Re: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on January 02, 2006, 12:47:48 PM
If Sumner really "wants a Happy New Year," he and his lieutenants ought to figure out why the FCC has been sending out a "chilly reception" for the League's proposals.

His prospects look poor for a Happy New Year, if measured by Newington's likely success in Washington. In fact, Sumner's quote in the website you've linked also applies very well to the existing system of coordinating modes and activities.


Quote
It is a proven concept that served the public interest well for 40 years, and is as valid today as ever.


It is a system the group in Newington wishes to abandon.


So are you for or against an entry level Novice Class license like we had years ago? This is the issue being addressed here. FCC hasn't been "proposal friendly" to any group in recent years.
Coordinating modes and activities has been beaten to death; strong arguments on both sides; some with merit; most just pissing in the wind.
[/tt]


Title: Re: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: W3SLK on January 02, 2006, 03:13:44 PM
Pete said:
Quote
....most just pissing in the wind.


And that's about what the ARRgghhL is good for, pissing in the wind!


Title: Re: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: K1MVP on January 02, 2006, 03:19:30 PM

  #1
   I am in favor of a so-called "new novice" ticket,--it should have never been
   "deleted" back when the NCT license was initiated,(about 20 years ago)

  #2
As far as the FCC not being "proposal friendly" to the ARRL,--might it have
something to do, with the fact, that with  many "blunders"  having been made  over the past 20 years or so,(by the ARRL) and now with this new "re-proposal" for a new novice ticket,the FCC might be saying, "SAY-WHAT", after the deletion of said license 20 years ago.

So is it any wonder the FCC might be questioning "leadership abilty" coming
from Newington?
                                       73, K1MVP


Title: Re: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: Steve - WB3HUZ on January 02, 2006, 06:39:03 PM
Paul, what's with the Courier typeface?


Title: Re: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: Art on January 07, 2006, 03:22:25 PM
I thought the novice licence was a good thing when I was WN1NER and do now. Novices operating in the novice sub bands with all modes would be a real boost to the hobby. The issue with the ARRL suggestion is that organization has generated so much ill will its endorsement of such a proposal is almost certainly a death sentence for it. The number of hams who are against anything ARRL is increasing each time they put another rare chicken thigh on the table.
That is the relevance of the band and mode comment Pete.

-ap


Title: Re: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: w3jn on January 07, 2006, 09:12:51 PM
But the question is, who would want a novice license?  The novice license was a purgatory to be endured until you upgraded, and I question whether it was even needed in the first place back in the 50's. 

I'm pretty certain I gained my extreme distate for operating CW during my novice days.   Haven't picked up a key in at least 20 years and don't miss it a bit.

The novice bands could easily be re-occupied by expanding the phone bands.  There is absolutely no justification for the novice sub-bands as they are today - almost completely bereft of activity.

'73 John


Title: Re: ARRL CEO Wants A Happy New Year
Post by: W3SLK on January 07, 2006, 10:26:01 PM
Wasn't not too long ago that the ARRgghhL was advocating against a 'Novice License'? Now they want to re-initiate it? Cripes its no wonder the FCC won't take them seriously on any of their proposal since they don't have the slightest idea what they want. Like a spoil child that ought to be taken out to the wood shed for a good beating!
AMfone - Dedicated to Amplitude Modulation on the Amateur Radio Bands