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Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: WV Hoopie on July 15, 2005, 02:10:00 PM Should I ask for a MSDS? This stuff needs to be shared with others. Found it on another thread..........for that good tooooob sound.
http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm Title: Re: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: KA1ZGC on July 15, 2005, 02:34:53 PM Quote from: WV Hoopie Should I ask for a MSDS? This stuff needs to be shared with others. Found it on another thread..........for that good tooooob sound. http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm I LOVE IT! Right up there with high-colonics and copper bracelets! I'm telling you, I'm in the wrong business! Thanks for passing that along, I'm going to shoot this one over to my drinking buddies at Bose! --Thom Keep Away One Zorched Ground Connector Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on July 15, 2005, 02:39:47 PM The disclaimer is good:
Quote Attention: Experience has shown, that power transistors in certain circuit topologies CAN over-react to Altmann “Tube-o-lator" lacquer. Over-reaction will lead to a dumb sound (that will make you feel sick), because too many overtones are filtered. If you experience over-reaction of a device, remove the “Tube-o-lator" lacquer with a carpet knife after curing, or wipe away before curing. Maybe that's the problem on today's amateur bands. Maybe the big 3 manufacturers are using this stuff. Title: S-Meter oil. Post by: Herb K2VH on July 15, 2005, 03:08:44 PM Sometime ask W2KBW about his dwindling supply of S-Meter oil. Apparently when you use that, weak signals (e.g., S-5) get much stronger (e.g. 40 db over). It's all in the action of the S-Meter. :roll:
Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: kc2ifr on July 15, 2005, 03:48:43 PM Will that stuff work with those Class E things????? ;)
Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Glenn K2KL on July 15, 2005, 04:26:50 PM Ok, on a stretch, I can understand the rubber rings someone sells to reduce mircophonics on tubes, but this? This can't be serious..
Aren't there some sort of truth in advertising laws?... I'm sure a good lawyer could make some money on these clowns.... friggin unbelievable!!!! Title: Re: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: GEORGE/W2AMR on July 15, 2005, 05:11:11 PM Quote from: WV Hoopie Should I ask for a MSDS? This stuff needs to be shared with others. Found it on another thread..........for that good tooooob sound. http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm Wonder what would happen if you dipped your Johnson in it? Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Glenn K2KL on July 15, 2005, 05:13:55 PM I guess I answered my own question... they're located in Germany...
Quote from: Glenn K2KL Ok, on a stretch, I can understand the rubber rings someone sells to reduce mircophonics on tubes, but this? This can't be serious.. Aren't there some sort of truth in advertising laws?... I'm sure a good lawyer could make some money on these clowns.... friggin unbelievable!!!! Title: Re: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on July 15, 2005, 05:35:22 PM Quote from: GEORGE/W2AMR Quote from: WV Hoopie Should I ask for a MSDS? This stuff needs to be shared with others. Found it on another thread..........for that good tooooob sound. http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm Wonder what would happen if you dipped your Johnson in it? Make it sound better????????? Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: KA1ZGC on July 15, 2005, 05:35:30 PM Quote from: Glenn K2KL Ok, on a stretch, I can understand the rubber rings someone sells to reduce mircophonics on tubes, but this? This can't be serious.. I once met a guy who claimed to have spent $30,000 on his CD player. Had to be bungee-mounted so it didn't skip when someone farted in the next house. If I can beleive this guy's claims, he probably spent $1/2M on the whole system, which, incendentally, sounded like ass-warmed-over to my ears. The guy does have far more money than brains, so he probably really did spend that much. These guys don't care about good sound, they're into pecker-matching about how much they spent on their systems. Quality be damned, if it costs more, it's better! Quote from: Glenn K2KL friggin unbelievable!!!! To you and me, yep. To these idiots, any snake oil is good snake oil. Here's some gems: "The mechanism behind the filtering abilities of this specifically designed lacquer is of electrical or electromechanical nature." (emphasis added) ...followed immediately by... "We are not able to provide an accurate description why the "Tube-o-lator" stuff actually works. Maybe some of you guys out there will solve this mystery and tell us." (again, emphasis added) Specifically designed to do what it does, but we don't know what it does or how it does it, please tell us! BRILLIANT! And, of course, right at the very top: "Attention: This product is no longer available for sale (see ordering information for details)." Ooops... probably already got sued! 15,000 quatloos to anyone who can cross-reference the chemical composition posted on the site to determine whether it's rubber cement or black fingernail polish. --Thom Killer Album One Zappa's Greatest Compositions Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: W1IA on July 15, 2005, 05:51:32 PM Quote from: kc2ifr Will that stuff work with those Class E things????? ;) No Bill, But I thought you were using it to get that FAT sound...HA BT Title: Re: S-Meter oil. Post by: W1UJR on July 15, 2005, 05:53:09 PM Quote from: Herb K2VH Sometime ask W2KBW about his dwindling supply of S-Meter oil. Apparently when you use that, weak signals (e.g., S-5) get much stronger (e.g. 40 db over). It's all in the action of the S-Meter. :roll: Or Marconi Antenna Wax.... Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Glenn K2KL on July 15, 2005, 06:48:45 PM Wow!... what a paradox!
Quote from: KA1ZGC Specifically designed to do what it does, but we don't know what it does or how it does it, please tell us! It's probably just torque seal... Title: Re: S-Meter oil. Post by: Glenn K2KL on July 15, 2005, 06:49:39 PM Or trap fluid!! :lol: :lol:
Quote from: W1UJR Quote from: Herb K2VH Sometime ask W2KBW about his dwindling supply of S-Meter oil. Apparently when you use that, weak signals (e.g., S-5) get much stronger (e.g. 40 db over). It's all in the action of the S-Meter. :roll: Or Marconi Antenna Wax.... Title: Re: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: wa2zdy on July 15, 2005, 07:02:46 PM Quote from: GEORGE/W2AMR Wonder what would happen if you dipped your Johnson in it? Oh, oh, the abuse I've taken in my life. Yet I've never heard it suggested that I be dipped in black magic marker ink . . . 73, Chris JOHNSON, WA2ZDY (Just kidding of course!) Title: Re: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: GEORGE/W2AMR on July 15, 2005, 07:09:20 PM Quote from: wa2zdy Quote from: GEORGE/W2AMR Wonder what would happen if you dipped your Johnson in it? Oh, oh, the abuse I've taken in my life. Yet I've never heard it suggested that I be dipped in black magic marker ink . . . 73, Chris JOHNSON, WA2ZDY (Just kidding of course!) Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Vortex Joe - N3IBX on July 15, 2005, 07:23:03 PM Now I really have seen everything. There is no end to their madness. It only goes to prove that a fool and his money will soon part.
Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: KA1ZGC on July 18, 2005, 01:21:10 PM You thought that was bad, take a look at this:
http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C&Category_Code=VOLUME&Product_Count=2 Yes, that's right: wooden volume knobs for a mere $485.00! Quote The sound becomes much more open and free flowing with a nice improvement in resolution. Dynamics are better and overall naturalness is improved. Proving once again: you ain't got nuthin' if you aint' got wood! --Thom Killer Appetizer One Zesty Green Cannabis Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Glenn K2KL on July 18, 2005, 02:05:49 PM I like the quote... "vibrations find there way into the signal path.."
...."dynamics are better"? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: What's the matter with you Thom! you can't hear the difference between the bakelite knobs and the wood knobs? geez! why not carbon fibre!.... Joe's right... a fool and his money... Quote from: KA1ZGC You thought that was bad, take a look at this: http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C&Category_Code=VOLUME&Product_Count=2 Yes, that's right: wooden volume knobs for a mere $485.00! Quote The sound becomes much more open and free flowing with a nice improvement in resolution. Dynamics are better and overall naturalness is improved. Proving once again: you ain't got nuthin' if you aint' got wood! --Thom Killer Appetizer One Zesty Green Cannabis Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: K1JJ on July 18, 2005, 02:17:27 PM Yep, and the audio cables pictured below cost $1,080.
http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RAM&Product_Code=ACT_SIGN_A (http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/images/products/ac/sanalogcable.jpg) And, this two pot volume control in a wooden box for $6,820. (http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/images/products/ac/silverrocksig.gif) Unbelieveable. I once ran into a telescope guy who tried to sell me one of those tube 10W amplifiers for $22,000. He had a crazy look in his eyes as he pitched me. After reading the sales brouchures on this kind of stuff, I think most is written by technical con men and the sheep followers believe it to be gospel - the sheep have good intentions, just like any cult member in the ranks. T Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Paul, K2ORC on July 18, 2005, 02:24:00 PM Quote "Left is dit and right is dah, decode this message and I'll drop my bra." (http://amfone.net/phpBB2/images/avatars/161864670242d2c6960aa98.gif) Tom Vu show you how to get rich and have big orgasm with no money down. Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Herb K2VH on July 18, 2005, 02:33:40 PM The only wood I see in these ads in in the heads of the idiots who buy this crap!
Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Glenn K2KL on July 18, 2005, 02:34:44 PM I was once shopping at Home Depot for some rubber covered, 12awg stranded copper wire to use as speaker wire for my guitar cabinets. Found some great stuff, cheap price, and as the guy in the orange vest was measuring some lengths for me he asked me "what ya gonna use this for?"... I said uh, speaker wire.. he said "oh no! you can't use this for speaker wire!!!... I said "and why not?" his answer was "because it will cause interference".... no joke!! :lol: :lol:
Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Herb K2VH on July 18, 2005, 02:38:07 PM Oh yeah, Glenn, I know about that. It's called HWSI -- Heavy Wire Speaker Interference. It's very dangerous!! :p
Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: Glenn K2KL on July 18, 2005, 02:43:58 PM The guy went on to tell me you have to use wire that is specifically designated as "speaker wire"... I was about to ask him... what the difference was but I had just eaten and didn't want to spit-up at his answer.
Oh yea! I've heard of that HWSI Herb, causes unwanted vibrations in the human body, and possible uncontrolled random dancing :lol: :lol: Quote from: Herb K2VH Oh yeah, Glenn, I know about that. It's called HWSI -- Heavy Wire Speaker Interference. It's very dangerous!! :p Title: Re: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: John Holotko on July 18, 2005, 11:51:13 PM Quote from: WV Hoopie Should I ask for a MSDS? This stuff needs to be shared with others. Found it on another thread..........for that good tooooob sound. http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm Wow !!! This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Even more ridiculous, he's probably sold plenty of it already. Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: w1guh on July 21, 2005, 08:03:36 AM I found out how and why that stuff works. A buddy told me why tubes sound better than transistors. See, in a tube, the electrons travel through a pristine vacuum, so they get to the other side totally clean. But in a transistor, the electrons are made to jump over a barrier of poison, and the poison distorts them and messes up the sound. So, it appears that that gunk you paint on transistors is an antidote to that poison.
BTW, you'll hear better bass if you hold two ice cubes between your back teeth while listening. Also, your speakers should always be below your amp...sound travels down better than up. Title: Gota put on the waders: Brown stuff getting deep Post by: John Holotko on July 21, 2005, 10:11:57 AM Would this stuff work for computer sound cards too ?? If I dip my sound card in the stuff will my computer produce a tube quality sound ??
Seriously, this stuff seems like it could actually DAMAGE an amp. By putting a coating of this gook over the components actsd as a layer of insulation around the component interefing with the normal air flow around the component and hence inhibiting the ability to cool. Seems like a good way to destroy a perfectly good transistor, ic, or other device. Title: Speaking of audiophools... Post by: KA1ZGC on July 25, 2005, 03:43:22 PM http://amfone.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5181 AMfone - Dedicated to Amplitude Modulation on the Amateur Radio Bands
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