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A well-known amateur radio personality, and self-proclaimed AM'er (although I have yet to hear him on the air) is being bashed on another message board because he made the following public statement:


If you don't already know who it is, click on the link below to find out:
http://www.w5yi.org/ama_news_article.php?id=183

I think Riley needs to get out of DC for a while.

Uhm, if he thinks we're not the greatest nation on the planet, (and we ARE, despite our coach-potato-ing from the end of the cold war) than just WHO does he think is?

Maybe he needs to go looking for the former Soviet Union and move there. Why do the America haters always go for government jobs?

Luckily, the more "off" comments were not WilliamR. Hollingsworth's..
But he hid behind David Sumner's comments (all in quotes)....


Anyway. I DID get a kick out ouf this quote....

"And the so-called "net" on 75 that bills itself as an "Oasis of Amateur Radio": Give us all a break. You are an ordinary roundtable. And no net is an "Oasis of Amateur radio."


(Macaroni my arse...)

Morning Don...

Rilley apparently reads the WSJ...

"We live in an age of great wealth--and lousy manners."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110010385

I was bitching to my old boss once about an idiot we had to deal with.
His comment was we need a few losers around to make us look good.

Predominantly, and I`m not going to argue the predominance`s
exactness, R H made a pretty good speech. However, bad
people do sometimes make good or better speeches. It`s not
time for us to get unsobre and dizzy over it, though. The
other things he says and the other things he does are all regular
big evil things done by a big evil lawyer amongst his friends who
has an almost exclusive shot aimed at Hams. For those of us who
are not familiar with R H`s fare, whether you`re new to the
subject, or whether you`re tired of the area`s thought right now,
let me awaken you with a dim but apparently good illustration
from inside his here and now and present "good" speech. The
words, "We are....we are....we are....". Which stay linkable with,
what we are. "We are....cell phone....(etc). What we are is an
awful lot of people he will find no excuse, no excuse! not to blame.
Nor pursue nor prosecute persecute attack. In a country like
where for significant example, too many people unquestioningly
watch a TV show bankrolled by Mia Farrow, where police cars
run over endless numbers of victims and watchers could think
that all these people are guilty.
Although we`d be hypocrites and leak harm to think that Hams
and AM`ers and, and, are all as white as porcelain and we
don`t have to consider our faith to each other every now and
then, nor fall into the don`t judge anyone for anything theory,
we should be quick and strongly allied with our friends. We`re
earning our wings quite a bit being Hams and such, but it`s
a quote from everyday life that I think helps most of all-
(the late Rev Martin Luther King jr., in a favorite short speech:
"Be the best of what you can be and the best of what you are"!

Therein lies his problem...

FCC Commissioner: "Riley, please sit down. You've been referred to me by the Surgeon General".

Rlley: "The SURGEON GENERAL? The Fed's top medical officer? What's the deal here?"

Commissioner: "He asked us to promote you to a job that you'd find of interest- We're building a new monitoring station, Rlley, In Miles City, Montana--Just for you!"

Riley: "Ohboy, are you kidding me? R-390s and everything, great big antennas, too?"

Commissioner: "Yes, rhombics, a cabinet full of prescribed medication, a crystal-controlled receiver locked on 3950 and a hotline to Dave Summers office. a real RED telephone."

Riley (panting): " Oh boy, Oh boy!"

Commissioner: "Riley, now we want you out of town as soon as possible, OK? Go get 'em!" <winks>

Bill,--KD0HG,
That is quite the "scenario" you just described. (gotta love it). :) :) :)
                                               73, K1MVP

What? 

Rick/K5IAR

And modest too....
                                Ian VK3KRI

Some people live in countries which need to be modest.

Other people don't.

      “We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.”
       -- Edward R. Murrow, 1908-1965
           American Journalist
 

 Thank You Herb..... The voice of reason. :)

It could not be any other way, for the nature of the universe is toward entropy, rather than order. As Rome fell, so goes America, unless the masses are awaked to what Washington termed "Divine Providence" once again.

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience are incompatible with freedom."
  --  Patrick Henry


In closing, America today, largely through the very policies of the Riley's employer, is not the America of our Founding Fathers. It is no longer the land of Liberty, but instead a land of self-interest.

"When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object." 
 -- Patrick Henry

Very "interesting" Herb,--the thing I have found in my experience, or experience`s is that those who
tend to be the most "vocal" in dissent about the problems we face(in our country) these days have never even served one day in the military, to fight for our freedoms.

In fact most of my experience has been(while in the service) that those who do serve, do so--
and do not "complain" about the problems in this country,--they "serve" out of a sense that there
is "a job to get done to make the country better".

                                                  73, K1MVP   

A case in point, from this week's ARRL LETTER:

Funny stuff. Seems Riley should take his own advice and lighten up. He commented on a ton of things that had nothing to do with enforcement issues. Rather he expounded on his own personal opinions of various operating types and/or modes. Of course his opinions are irrelevent in the enforcement context and are no more valid or important than any other outside that context (he's just another ham).

As a taxpayer, he's there to do enforcement in accordance with Part 97. Doing anything other than this is improper and fiscally (and maybe legally) unacceptable.

Finally, Part 97 says nothing about "wide banders." The term is not found in Part 97. So how could it be an enforcement issue?

Quite silly.

Riley should have a chance to P&M think of all the cry baby losers he has to deal with in his part 97 quest.

He's not being paid to P&M or opinionate. He's getting paid to do enforcement of Part 97. Anything else is BS and invalid. He can P&M as a private citizen, not as an FCC employee.

Is he paid to speak at the Dayton FCC forum, or does he do that on his own time?

He doesn't bash AM, but he seems to stay on the widebandsideband crew's case.  There is nothing in Part 97 that limits bandwidth to any specific number, and he emphasised that at a previous forum several years ago.

It's really a matter of common sense.  If the band is congested it's probably not a good idea to run widebandsideband.  When running AM under congested condx I usually kick in my 3400~ low-pass filter, since nearly everyone who would be  receiving my signal would likely have their receivers set to 6 kc/s bandwidth or less and the higher  frequencies would go unappreciated.  But when the band is not congested (and congestion seems to be  less and less a problem these  days) what's wrong with running a 6 kc/s wide SSB signal?

To be a devil's advocate, why is a 6 kc/s wide SSB signal any worse than a 6 kc/s wide AM signal?

Ah Huz gotta let him P&M a little you don't want the FCC to turn into the post office. Heck I P&M at work sometimes even to my boss and sometimes he P&Ms to me and sometimes we do a group P&M

Don wrote;

"There is nothing in Part 97 that limits bandwidth to any specific number, and he emphasised that at a previous forum several years ago."

So if it isn't in part 97, what enforcement action could be taken against the wideband SSb'ers?? or AM'ers for that matter regarding "bandwidth" ?...

Would that be just an unofficial P&M??


 :P

None. Thus the inappropriateness of Riley's comments.

P&Ming with your boss and coworkers is far different than P&Ming in a public forum while supposedly representing your company. Riley's comments have no official standing in my view and were rather inappropriate. The comments did nothing to help amateur radio and they made the FCC look bad.

Part 2.202 of the commissions rules regarding necessary bandwidth.

Also, some would say we are not covered by Part 2, FALSE, read part 2.1, and all of Part 0.